Unknown Islamic Dirham

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German_empire5_mark_fan

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Bericht: 20-sep-2021, 23:30 #

Hello,

Here is an Unknown Islamic Dirham

Dimensions:
3.5 grams, silver, 22mm

Thank you

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Andy289

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 02:09 #

Looks like Abu Sa'id dirhams.

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 02:29 #

Any idea on the date or mint?

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 03:08 #

Citeer: "German_empire5_mark_fan"I believe it is this type: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces160188.html
Any idea on the date or mint?

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 20:46 #
Gewijzigd: 21-sep-2021, 20:47

It's quite worn but if I read correctly: zuriba (struck in) Baghdad (?). Date should be around 719-722 AH.

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 20:49 #

Citeer: "Andy289"It's quite worn but if I read correctly: zuriba (struck in) Baghdad (?). Date should be around 719-722 AH.

Hello,

Is it a ND type or is the date just of the flan.

Thank you very much.

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 20:57 #

I really hope you're not following numista years. For an unknown reason numista say ND for coins that are dated but not necessarily with numerals, sometimes the date is plain text.

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 21:39 #

Citeer: "Andy289"I really hope you're not following numista years. For an unknown reason numista say ND for coins that are dated but not necessarily with numerals, sometimes the date is plain text.

When I say ND i mean that the coin wasn't minted with a date and you just have to go by the reign.
Such as this coin.
I asked because I really do not know much about Islamic coins and if the dated this type or not.

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 21:45 #

I think the mint and date is on the coin but it's a little bit too worn to be read properly. You have here an example of coin with date that is listed on numista as ND. This is why I asked why do you think is ND.

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 21:58 #
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Thank you Andy,

Do you know if the date is usually on the front or back? Maybe that could help.

Do you also have any links or websites that may help with reading it?

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 22:16 #

I don't collect or know very much about coinage of Ilkhans but most surely someone from zeno.ru can identify your coin properly.

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Bericht: 21-sep-2021, 22:19 #
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Citeer: "Andy289"I don't collect or know very much about coinage of Ilkhans but most surely someone from zeno.ru can identify your coin properly.

Thank your for all your help Andy.

I found a similar coin below on mongoliancoins.com

It is also from Baghdad mint.

Still looking for a date though.

https://mongoliancoins.com/images/Coins_of_Mongol_Empire/IL.abu_said_606.jpg

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Bericht: 22-sep-2021, 00:17 #

Seems I won't be able to upload it at Zeno.

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Bericht: 22-sep-2021, 13:10 #

I can do it for you if you provide pictures of the coin in high resolution and white background.

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Bericht: 1-okt-2021, 18:51 #

Citeer: "Andy289"I can do it for you if you provide pictures of the coin in high resolution and white background.

I will pm a better photo to you.

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