German/Austria (?) tokens/notgeld (?) [opgelost]

Hi all, would anyone be able to help me find the link to Numista for these two pieces, assuming they exist

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34778.html

Searching for the other.

Got it:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces191940.html

Here's the link to the first one:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces191940.html

Often you can find the coin by searching for what lettering you can identify, and then narrow it down by year and denomination if possible. For example, I did a search in lettering for "LAGERGELD", and I found it easily from there.

Hope this helps!

Awesome! Thanks so much guys. This was driving me crazy. I tried searching all the german speaking countries by date and denomination. I think I should have left it unfiltered, so it probably missed out on scanning through the tokens

These pieces are very interesting from a historic POV, especially the ArterKrupp piece!