请,您可以翻译下面的中文吗? Identification of banknotes (China)

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I have found these notes and would greatly appreciate your help in knowing more details.
I only know: they are private banks, in China, period 1905-1935.
Who knows the name of the bank and the place?
Are they genuine and how much are they worth?
Thank you







Dragons note: should be silver currency, emperor era, Jilin...1 yuan, but not sure
Any expert advice? Value?
1st: jilin province qing dynasty note: 1000 jiao (i think 1 jiao = 0.10 yuan)
2nd: republic of china 3 diao (no idea what does that mean)
3rd: Zhujiazhuangzinan 1 yuan
4th: 1931 3 jiao:pingxixianhunong bank

i‘m not an expert in Chinese banknotes either.
3rd: Zhujiazhuangzinan 1 yuan, is Tibet place, right?

4th: 1931 3 jiao:pingxixianhunong bank, is it hunan, you mean? Bank ping xi xian?

Thank you for cooperating.
Not an expert, I just read the characters and hit the results in Google

1st: Ta-Ching Government Bank Jilin Branch 1000 Jiao - date not filled.

2nd: A 3 Diao credit scrip from Dehexiang in Quyang North Street(?). On the bottom probably shows the printing location which is in Tianjin.

3rd: Not sure, but it is worth 1 Yuan

4th: Pingjiang County Workers and Farmers Bank 3 Jiao, 1931 - one of the early Communist Banks .
:wiz:
With the new info, maybe, an original of the first type, should look like this one...:. :
Citeer: "Anticogentleman"​3rd: Zhujiazhuangzinan 1 yuan, is Tibet place, right?

​4th: 1931 3 jiao:pingxixianhunong bank, is it hunan, you mean? Bank ping xi xian?

​Thank you for cooperating.
the words are ​朱家庄. I've searched this up on Google. Apparently, it's either in Yunan or Suzhou. If it's from Tibet, there should be some Tibetian characters on it.

for the other banknote, the words seem to be:平沍县。 I cannot find anything about it though.
Citeer: "qwerty844448"​the words are ​朱家庄. I've searched this up on Google. Apparently, it's either in Yunan or Suzhou. If it's from Tibet, there should be some Tibetian characters on it.

​for the other banknote, the words seem to be:平沍县。 I cannot find anything about it though.
​It is actually 平江 rather than 平沍, judging from 工 next to it. And there is this reference link http://m.smile2012.com/html/2016/tebiecehua_0129/7517.html
Good search. Thank you. It looks genuine but I have to check the reverse.
Citeer: "griff88"
Citeer: "qwerty844448"​the words are ​朱家庄. I've searched this up on Google. Apparently, it's either in Yunan or Suzhou. If it's from Tibet, there should be some Tibetian characters on it.
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​​for the other banknote, the words seem to be:平沍县。 I cannot find anything about it though.
​​It is actually 平江 rather than 平沍, judging from 工 next to it. And there is this reference link http://m.smile2012.com/html/2016/tebiecehua_0129/7517.html
​Oh I see. Thank you very much!
The Da Qing banknote (red dragons) looks a bit too strange:

on the right side, can be seen a duplication of the same characters of the left flank.

WORSE, THE APPEARANCE OF THE REVERSE. Can that be translated, please?

千 [1000]
註销 [canceled?]
小銀圓壹仟角 [1000 silver jiao]

Here are also a 10, 20, 50 and a 1000 Jiao like yours.
https://m.kongfz.com/newshop/251350
http://mbook.kongfz.com/251350/1691787593/
http://mbook.kongfz.com/251350/1691776702/
http://mbook.kongfz.com/251350/1693178603/
http://mbook.kongfz.com/251350/1693187551/
It looks the same! I was thinking it was a fantasy piece.
My idea was not wrong, so, that is 'silver currency', but, equal to 100 yuan.
Very useful, grazie, danke.
---Now, the only problem I see is about its low quality in details, compared to the other one shown before. I saw many notes like those, with a reverse full of rulings, and a well filled obverse.
This Jilin note looks poor and empty, no exact date and no real signatures. I could also be a well spread printed fake... do you feel the same?

---Now, the only problem I see is about its low quality in details, compared to the other one shown before. I saw many notes like those, with a reverse full of rulings, and a well filled obverse.
This Jilin note looks poor and empty, no exact date and no real signatures. I could also be a well spread printed fake...you feel the same?
Not only: it was found on second hand books websites, not on auction ones... and the black seal on top, looks printed too!
I don't really know if it can be a genuine note...
To be honest, I don't remember seeing a real Qing banknote. Real ones are really hard to come by and cost a bomb.
Citeer: "Anticogentleman"​I have found these notes and would greatly appreciate your help in knowing more details.
​I only know: they are private banks, in China, period 1905-1935.
​Who knows the name of the bank and the place?
​Are they genuine and how much are they worth?
​Thank you









​The first one is definitely a fantasy note. I had the full set of these fakes

They were printed in a variety of colours and in 2 different sizes. The paper was most likely stained in tea or some other organic substance to artificially age it.

They are fake for a number of reasons including:
1. the wild use of colours that were not originally used (pretty but not genuine)
2. The purported issuing authorities (the headings list different "ministries" of the Ta Ching Gov which never issued banknotes or bonds)
3. Some of these notes purport to be bonds. The stamps and inks used look utterly peculiar

The actual base printing of the notes is very good; it's just the overprinting that gives them away

I have also come across the 3rd and the 4th banknotes before; they were sold to me as "replicas" (ie. fakes)
The 2nd one therefore is also possibly a fake too, sorry
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