Philippines issuing entities [opgelost]

Issuing entities are needed for the Philippines.
So for the first part...please add:

Banco Español Filipino de Isabel 2a
Banco Español Filipino
República Filipina
Bank of the Philippine Islands
Philippine National Bank
Philippine Islands
Japanese Government (or similar for the occupation notes)
Central Bank of the Philippines
Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas ( I don't know if it's needed, it's basically the same thing as the one above)

And now for the other request. During WWII there were a lot of emergency and guerrilla issues.
I've counted around 50 provinces who issued currency. So..I don't know if we should add all of them as issuing entities, or just add the notes under local banknotes with the name of the province in title.

Or another issuer under Philippines can be created. Philippines provinces or something..

Hello

Yes, if you have a list of the provinces, I can add them.

Regards

I hope I got them all:

Apayo
Bohol
Bukidnon
Cagayan
Capiz
Aklan Military
Cebu
Culion Leper Colony
Ilocos Norte
Iloilo
Isabela
Lanao
Leyte
Luzon
Masbate
KKKK
Mindanao
Misamis Occidental
Misamis Oriental
Mountain Province
Negros Occidental
Negros Oriental
US Forces in the Phillipines
Nueva Vizcaya
Palawan
Agutaya
Balabac
Brooke's Point
Cuyo
Dumaran
Puerto Princesa
Taytay
Romblon
Free Samar
USAFFE
Free Sulu
Zamboanga

Some are cities issues some are provinces issues, also some military and guerilla issues. I left out the ones with no SCWPM entries.
There are a lot of this specialized issues already in the catalog. I am just wondering if adding all the issuers is right, or creating Philipines Provinces under Philippines is better. Although not all of them are provinces...
Share your opinions please.

Thank you! Some initial thoughts:

• We can have a sub-issuer for the Philippines, like for other notgeld issuers (See Austrian and French Notgeld). Here is a sample of how it should look for the Philippines:

- Philippines
----- Philippines
----- Philippine Notgeld
------------ Bohol, Province of
------------ Cagayan, Province of
------------ Capiz, Province of
------------------- Aklan, Area of
------------ Cebu, Province of
------------ Mountain Province
------------------- Apayo, Sub-province of
------------------- Mountain Province
------------ Palawan, Province of
------------------- Agutaya, Municipality of
------------------- Brooke's Point, Municipality of
------------------- Cuyo, Municipality of
------------------- Dumaran, Municipality of
------------------- Puerto Princesa, Municipality of
------------------- Taytay, Municipality of
------------ Zamboanga, Province of
------------------- Zamboanga, Municipality of
------------------- Zamboanga, Province of
...

• we need to distinguish between the issuers (cities, provinces), the ruling authorities (governments), and the issuing entities (banks, armies, treasuries, ministries). So Aklan for example should be styled as "Area of Aklan" instead of "Aklan Military". Same for KKKK, US Forces, USAFFE, etc.

• For each issuer, we can have several authorities and issuing entities. For example, for Negros Occidental, Province of we can have these entities:
- Provincial Currency Committee
- Philippine National Bank, Bacolod Branch
...

• Leper Colonies and POW camps should be in * Tokens.

Regards

That looks great, it is the perfect way to organize them. Also I will like to referee this section once created. One thing I don't understand. Why do you think is better to put leper colonies and POW in tokens? The leper colonies coins of Philippines are in the coins section not tokens section.

In the future, there will be a Token section on Numista, just like Coins and Banknotes. Until then, the workaround is to store everything in the *Token issuer. However, this is not easy to manage with so many currencies. That's why in the meantime before the token section is up, we have the flexibility to keep some tokens in the coin catalogue.

I think otherwise, any coins/banknotes that have a limited circulation (for a specific event, institution, or product) should be in tokens.

Very well then. I know adding the new issuers will take some time probably. Until then, if possible, please add the issuing entities that I listed above.

Citeer: "allexis"​Issuing entities are needed for the Philippines.
​So for the first part...please add:
​
​Banco Español Filipino de Isabel 2a
​Banco Español Filipino
​República Filipina
​Bank of the Philippine Islands
​Philippine National Bank
​Philippine Islands
​Japanese Government (or similar for the occupation notes)
​Central Bank of the Philippines
​Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas ( I don't know if it's needed, it's basically the same thing as the one above)
​
​And now for the other request. During WWII there were a lot of emergency and guerrilla issues.
​I've counted around 50 provinces who issued currency. So..I don't know if we should add all of them as issuing entities, or just add the notes under local banknotes with the name of the province in title.
​
​Or another issuer under Philippines can be created. Philippines provinces or something..

​

The issuing entities with their names in Spanish also need to have their names in English as well.

'Banco Espanol Filipino' would be 'Spanish Bank of the Philippines'.

Aidan.

Any news on this?

Hello,

The issuing entities are added, with some comments:

-Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas is indeed the same, but both English and Spanish names are in the database. they will be visible at some point in the future.

- "República Filipina" and "Philippine Islands" are not really issuing institutions, but rather the form of government/name of the country. I think the Treasury issued most if not all of these notes. If there was another institution, let me know.

I also added the following issuers:

Agutaya, Municipality of
Aklan, area of
Apayo, Sub-province of
Bacuit, Municipality of
Balabac, Municipality of
Bohol, Province of
Brooke's Point, Municipality of
Bukidnon, Province of
Cagayan, Province of
Cagayancillo, Municipality of
Capiz, Province of
Cebu, Province of
Coron, Municipality of
Cuyo, Municipality of
Dumaran, Municipality of
Ilocos Norte, Province of
Iloilo, Province of
Isabela, Province of
Lanao, Province of
Leyte, Province of
Luzon, Island of
Masbate, Province of
Mindanao, Island of
Misamis Occidental, Province of
Misamis Oriental, Province of
Mountain Province
Negros Occidental, Province of
Negros Oriental, Province of
Negros, Island of
Nueva Vizcaya, Province of
Palawan, Province of
Puerto Princesa, Municipality of
Romblon, Province of
Samar, Province of
Sulu, Province of
Taytay, Municipality of
Zamboanga, Municipality of
Zamboanga, Province of

Culion was a leper colony, and these issues should be added to tokens.

Finally, I added the following provincial issuing entities:

Agutaya Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Aklan Area :: Commander of the 2nd Battalion, 64th Regiment
Apayo Sub-Province :: Apayo provincial Board
Bacuit Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Balabac Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Bohol Province :: Emergency Currency Board
Brookes Point Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Bukidnon Province :: United States Forces in the Philippines, 109th Division
Bukidnon Province :: United States Forces in the Philippines, 116th Infantry Regiment
Cagayan Province :: Currency Board
Cagayancillo Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Capiz Province :: Currency Committee
Cebu Province :: Philippine National Bank, Cebu Branch
Cebu Province :: Emergency Currency Board
Coron Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Cuyo Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Dumaran Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Governor of Palawan
Ilcos Norte Province :: Treasury
Iloilo Province :: Philippine National Bank, Iloilo Branch
Iloilo Province :: Second Currency Committee
Iloilo Province :: Treasury
Isabela Province :: Isabela Province Treasury
Lanao Province :: Philippine National Bank, Lanao Branch
Lanao Province :: Provincial Treasury of the Free Lanao Provincial Government
Leyte Province :: Emergency Currency Board
Leyte Province :: Treasury
Luzon Island :: United States Army Forces in the Far East
Luzon Island :: Marcos V. Augustin Marking Guerilla Forces
Luzon Island :: President Quezon's Own Guerrillas
Masbate Province :: Masbate Consolidated Mining Company
Masbate Province :: Provincial Board
Masbate Province :: The Army of the Free People / Katipunan Sa Kaluwasan Sang Ka-Anakan Sang Kapupud-An
Mindanao Island :: Mindanao Emergency Currency Board
Mindanao Island :: Second Mindanao Emergency Currency Board
Misamis Occidental Province :: Philippine National Bank, Misamis Occidental Branch
Misamis Oriental Province :: Philippine National Bank, Oriental Misamis Agency
Mountain Province :: Mountain Province Emergency Board
Negros Island :: Negros Emergency Currency Board
Negros Island :: Treasury
Negros Island :: Free Negros Military Currency Committee
Negros Island :: Army of the United States of America, IV Philippine Corps
Negros Island :: Army of the United States of America, 7th Military District
Negros Island :: United States Forces in the Philippines, 7th Military District
Negros Island :: United States Forces in the Philippines, 7th Military District, Central Negros Sector
Negros Island :: United States Forces in the Philippines, 7th Military District, Special District Headquarters Troops
Negros Island :: United States Forces in the Philippines, 7th Military District, Command Post W
Negros Occidental Province :: Philippine National Bank, Negoros Occidental Currency Committee
Negros Occidental Province :: Provincial Treasury
Negros Occidental Province :: Negros Occidental Provincial Currency Committee
Negros Oriental Province :: Provincial Board
Negros Oriental Province :: Negros Oriental Currency Committee
Nueva Vizcaya Province :: Provincial Government of Nueva Vizcaya
Palawan Province :: Provincial Authority
Puerto-Princesa Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Samar Province :: United States Army Forces in the Far East Currency Board
Samar Province :: Free Samar Currency Committee
Sulu Province :: Free Sulu Provincial Government
Sulu Province :: United States Forces in the Philippines, 125th Infantry Regiment
Taytay Municipality :: Municipal Council, authorised by the Provincial Board
Zamboanga Municipality :: Bank of the Philippine Islands, Zamboanga Branch
Zamboanga Province :: Philippine National Bank, Zamboanga Branch

The list is not complete, and there are a lot of uncertainties, so please feel free to let me know if there's anything missing or you would like changed.

It would be great if we could have at least a note in each issuer, and ideally in each entity as well, so that we do not have empty entries in the database.

Best regards
strato

Great job!!! Are all of this going to be added under Philippines notgeld or something similar?

Yes!
the country list should update in a day or so after you add the first note to one of the new issuers:

- Philippines
----- Philippines
----- Philippine Notgeld
------------ Mountain Province
------------------- Apayo, Sub-province of
------------------- Mountain Province...

I am not sure why this is on the list : Negros Occidental Province :: Provincial Treasury
I don't see any treasury related notes for this province.

Or maybe the couponized checks... in that case we need a Negros Oriental : Provincial treasury
or PHILIPPINE NATIONAL BANK for this https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note241323.html

Hello,

I've added the following issuers for which there seem to be photos on ha:
- Bohol
------ Jagna, Municipality of
------ Loay, Municipality of
------ Clarin, Municipality of
------ Calape, Municipality of
------ Antequera, Municipality of
------ Maribojoc, Municipality of
------ Ubay, Municipality of
------ Tubigon, Municipality of
------ Loon, Municipality of
- Cebu
----- Bantayan, Municipality of
- Eastern Samar
----- Balangiga, Municipality of
----- Guiuan, Municipality of
----- Salcedo, Municipality of
----- Oras, Municipality of
- Leyte
----- Hindang, Municipality of
----- Hilongos, Municipality of
----- Macrohon, Municipality of
----- Maasin, Municipality of
----- Matalom, Bato, Hilongos, Hindang, and Inopacan, Municipalities of
- Negros
----- Basay, Municipality of
- Northern Samar
----- Pambujan Sur, Municipality of
- Romblon
----- Romblon, Municipality of
----- Sibuyan, Island of
- Samar
----- Calbiga, Municipality of

There are also issuing entities for most of the ones above - those I managed to figure out.

Furthermore, there is a good reference: Neil Shafer - "Philippine Emergency and Guerrilla Currency of World War II", 1974. According to this, there would be these other issuers:

- Capiz
------ Buruanga
------ Kalibo
------ Ivisan
------ Sigma
- Antique
------ Barbaza
------ Bugasong
------ Caluya
------ Culasi
------ Dao
------ Laua-an
------ Pandan
------ San Remigio
------ Sibalom
------ Tibiao
------ Valderrama
- Bohol
------ Balilihan
------ Bilar
------ Dimilao
------ Loboc
------ Sevilla
- Cebu
------ Madridejos
- Iloilo
------ Jordan
- Leyte
------ Hinundayan
------ Liloan
------ Malitbog
------ Sogod
------ Tolosa
- Negros
------ Tolong
- Samar
------ Borongan
------ Calbiga
------ Catarman
------ Catubig
------ Dolores
------ Hernani
------ Laoang
------ Llorente
------ Pambujan
------ Palapag
------ San Julian
------ Sulat
------ Taft
- Surigao Province
- Zamboanga
------ Lamitan
------ Pagadian

I didn't add these yet, as it seems to be tricky to find info and photos on them. But if you find anything, let me know and I can add them

Best regards

strato

Great job!!!

Small problem I can't pick Peso- notgeld as a currency.

Hello,
this normally resolves itself overnight after you add the first note to that issuer. Can you please check if it's still not working and let me know otherwise

It works now and I think this can be marked as done. I will open another thread if I find other issuers although that's quite difficult.