Can someone help - small silver (?) coin [opgelost]

Good evening,

I have this small silver (?) coin:

• 0.6 gramm
  
• 16.5 mm diameter
  
• not magnetic
  

Even as there are some details visible, I am not able to find something similar in the www ....

Has anyone a clue what kind of coin this is? Origin, age, ...

Thanks a lot for your help!

Reverse picture is upside down.

1 Solidus, City of Riga (Swedish Livonia): https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces31474.html

Perfect! - This was a fast one ! So cool!

Thanks a lot!

The exact date is difficult to read:



It's (16)23 of (16)25. The picture on Numista is from a 1625 coin but it looks as if the 2 is different from your coin, so yours might be a (16)23.

There are a lot of varieties in the legend. Unfortunately there is no information for the 1623 so determination of the date on the basis of the legend isn't possible.
If your coin is a 1625, of the four possible varieties it probably is the second one GVSTA : AD - OL · D · G · REX · S / SOLIDVS · CIVI · RIGENSIS · 25.



I think the A of GVSTA in in the left red circle and although it's not clearly visible there's definitely room for the A (which rules out varieties 3 and 4). It's also very clear there is no O between AD and the ornament at the bottom, which rules out variety 1.

So, I believe it's (16)23 or (16)25 variety 2.

Excellent analysis!

This is very helpful and instructive! Thanks a lot!

Thank you. Unfortunately there are still two possibilities and I can't say with certainty which one is your coin. But maybe with the coin in hand you can better see whether it's a 3 or a 5.

Citeer: "Essor Prof"​Thank you. Unfortunately there are still two possibilities and I can't say with certainty which one is your coin. But maybe with the coin in hand you can better see whether it's a 3 or a 5.

​there were no such coins minted in 1623:)

Citeer: "Grinya"​​​there were no such coins minted in 1623:)

​So our catalog is incorrect?

Seems so....

It may also be noteworthy that the text section in the Numista listing above the date table does not list 1623, even though it is in the table. Also, Krause/NGC also does not list 1623 for KM#9: https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/livonia-solidus-km-9-16z1-cuid-1162485-duid-1448602. And I cannot find a 1623 Riga solidus in the auction databases I frequent for this part of the world (WCN and OneBid)

But I agree with @EssorProf that the area where the date should be (at the end of RIGENSIS) does not look quite like examples I can find such as this: https://wcn.pl/archive/169508?q=Ryga+1625

(Edit: Found an example where the base of the 2 touches the 5 as on the OP coin: https://onebid.pl/en/coins-gustavus-adolphus-solidus-1625-riga/246919)

Citeer: "tdziemia"Also, Krause/NGC also does not list 1623 for KM#9: https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/livonia-solidus-km-9-16z1-cuid-1162485-duid-1448602.

​Although without prices, the 1623 is in Krause (but like you've said not on NGC):

Citeer: "tdziemia"It may also be noteworthy that the text section in the Numista listing above the date table does not list 1623

I was also wondering why the 1623 is not on that section because ALL the other dates of this type are there. This indeed might be a sign the 1623 doesn't exist and Krause is wrong (again) and since we often take our data from Krause Numista is also wrong. Together with the fact 1623 is not on NGC (although Krause and NGC are very often the same), there are no pictures to be found of a 1623 and especially the 1623 is not mentioned in the catalog Grinya provided us pictures from (local catalogs are normally much more specialized and reliable than world catalogs like Krause), we can now assume the 1623 doesn't exist.

We ruled out every date except 1623 and 1625 (2nd variety). The assumption I've made it could be a 1623 was because the pictures of the date on the OP's coin was not the same as on Numista. But now you showed us pictures which proof there are not only variations in the legend but also in the placement of the date digits, which destroy the reason of my original assumption it might be a 1623.

Final conclusion: the OP's coin is very very likely a 1625.

WOW!

and a big THANK YOU to all who contributed in solving this puzzle!