Are you asking about the coupons listed at the end? If so, and if the translation of the wording is correct, I can see no justification for these remaining in the banknote section now that exonumia is up and running. Just because they're in Pick doesn't guarantee they circulated as money.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Citeer: "ceh2019"Are you asking about the coupons listed at the end? If so, and if the translation of the wording is correct, I can see no justification for these remaining in the banknote section now that exonumia is up and running. Just because they're in Pick doesn't guarantee they circulated as money.
So, it nation wide legal tender banknotes doesn't fit in the main catalogue, then what does? I'm just wonder, what is the criteria for a banknote? Similar to these were issued in Belarus, Ukraine, and Moldova, right after the break up of USSR.
Were they nationwide legal tender banknotes? What's printed on them doesn't suggest they were but if there's evidence to the contrary, please share it so we can properly assess them. Just to be clear, I'm assuming it's pieces like this that we're discussing.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Sorry, but if the dates of the Uzbeki coupons and banknotes are correct, the banknotes were issued in 1992 and the coupons in 1993. I stress if because, whilst the banknotes are dated, the coupons are undated.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
According to 25th edition of Pick, coupons were issued prior to banknotes, since listed first. Also while banknotes are dated 1992, Pick indicates actual issue date was 1993. I think the evidence is generally that coupons were used nationwide as money prior to issue of national currency banknotes and that this was generally done by former Soviet Union republics.
I'm not entirely convinced that the order they appear in Pick can be used as evidence. Is there anything more concrete? If they were used as money, what was the currency? My understanding at the time was that these kind of coupons were used across the former USSR alongside money as some kind of control on spending. My 7th edition of Pick calls the Uzbeki issues "Ruble Control Coupons".
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Citeer: "ceh2019"I'm not entirely convinced that the order they appear in Pick can be used as evidence. Is there anything more concrete? If they were used as money, what was the currency? My understanding at the time was that these kind of coupons were used across the former USSR alongside money as some kind of control on spending. My 7th edition of Pick calls the Uzbeki issues "Ruble Control Coupons".
Obviously they were in substitute if tje USSR Ruble. The first currency of Georgia was "kuponi" (coupon), and Moldova had "cupon" (coupon). There's really no reason to move them from the main catalogue since they were the substitur of a national currency before the So‘m was established.
Citeer: "ngdawa"Obviously they were in substitute if tje USSR Ruble. The first currency of Georgia was "kuponi" (coupon), and Moldova had "cupon" (coupon). There's really no reason to move them from the main catalogue since they were the substitur of a national currency before the So‘m was established.
You say obviously but I'm afraid it isn't obvious at all. The Georgian and Moldovan notes look like regular banknotes (although Moldova also issued sheets). These Uzbeki issues are sheets of coupons to be cut out and used (somehow). If they had to be used alongside rubles like ration coupons then they belong in exonumia. We really need proof that they circulated in their own right.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
So are you saying that there's no difference between the sheets of multiple coupons (like this) and the individually issued notes that have "coupon" written on them (like this) in terms of how they were used? They look very different to me and have very different texts on them.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
