Can someone tell me how pre-federal US banknotes are defined here? I submitted a new listing for an obsolete Bank of Washtenaw note from 1854 and was told “not sure 1854 is pre-fed” and was asked to change to the regular US label. When I look at the other US pre-fed notes, there are only 12 total, and 9 of them are more recent than 1854.
I was taking pre-fed to mean pre-federal reserve backed national banknote which didn’t happen until around 1913/14. If pre-fed is intended to mean pre-1776ish that would be good to clarify as the overwhelming majority of notes already listed under pre-fed don’t match that. If there is some other definition that would be good to know as well.
Thanks for any assistance so I can get my Washtenaw entry moving as well as several more I have been waiting to submit until I hear from others.
I don't believe the term Pre-Federal should apply to anything other than Colonial Currency. I think what you have is a "broken bank note" or "obsolete bank note." These were issued by private banks backed by money they supposedly had on deposit.
That works for me. So how do we get it clarified and the other obsolete/confederate notes that are already incorrectly catalogued under US pre-fed re-catalogued so it’s not confusing for people looking to add new US banknotes?
And yes that is the one I was creating an entry for. I have a handful of other obsolete notes and national (pre-federal reserve) notes that I was waiting to submit before determining the correct designation.
This "United States - Pre-Federal" issuer will eventually be changed into an "American states" issuer (I cannot give a time-frame as to when though; this has been planned for a while now).
In regards to the coins, not much will change (save for making each individual state its own issuer); in regards to the banknotes, we will list all individual states (both pre-federal and post-federal, including individual Civil War state issuers), although the division is apparently not-so-simple on this side, which is why there is a delay in making these changes.
With that being said, any pre-federal banknotes issued by various states can be listed in the "United States - Pre-Federal" issuer as this is where they will all fit under eventually.
The indivdual states would be split into their own issuers. Once split, there could be divisions based on ruling authorities or currency (Pound/Dollar) that would align with pre-colonial/post-colonial groupings, but that would all depend on the pieces specifically within the individual issuers.
Exonumia makes things very confusing--I would personally prefer a whole new second-level issuer to deal with those items (United States - Local issues; similar issuers could be created under every country) because this "American states" issuer is its own area of numismatics, unrelated to modern Exonumia. But while that is what I would like to see, I am really not sure what the plan is there.
