Coin found in Malacca [opgelost]

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how does this coin found in Sea shore of Malacca, Malaysia. Could someone advice.
Zaharuddin
Venice - an imitation of a coin from there.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia32411.html
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
For comparison ...



Admittedly not exactly the same, but they are both tokens imitating real coins.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Thanks sir.
any photos of the real one. I found this stuff around 48 years back. I kept it till now. I'm wondering whether it has any history related to Portuguese empire those days in Malacca.
Zaharuddin
So the bronze tokens are very crude imitations of some of these gold coins ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=venice&r=zecchino&ct=coin&im1=&im2=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&cat=y&ru=&ca=3&no=&v=&i=&b=&d=&u=&a=&dg=&m=&f=&t=&w=&mt=&g=&se=&c=&wi=&sw=
where the religious figures are replaced by stylised plants.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Thank you so much.
now I wonder which is the earliest version?
Zaharuddin
Not sure, but maybe yours is older. The one with the scalloped
edge is still available today ...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283926472785
as one example.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Thanks sir. For your valuable info.
Zaharuddin
There is also this long and interesting article ...
http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/ark:/53695/nnan28786
where halfway down is the section
VIII GILT COPPER DUCAT TOKENS
'... both figures and inscriptions are mere caricatures of the originals.
On the obverse, the central staff and exergual line are prominent; the figures of St. Mark and
the doge are represented by plant or flower-like ghosts of human figures'.
So maybe yours was gilded in the past.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Thank you so much sir.
I appreciate it so much . need me hours to digest it.
Zaharuddin
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