I have a bag of "coins" each marked with the word "copy". They're beautiful pieces that I kept as placeholders, but years later they don't suit my collection. They're all metal, just not gold etc. That 2011 Buffalo copy is gorgeus and my photo does not do it justice! I'd like to swap them, but I'm not sure how to list them here on Numista. Anyone here collect these?
To be clear, these are all copies. Beautiful but not real.
Again somebody is here with copy's of coins. I think it is not a good devolpment if this
kind of things are exposed here on a somehow regular basis.
A serious coin-collector does not like to be involved in 'coin-copy-things' at all.
I have a Collection of Both Copies and Fakes I collect these for the Sole Purpose of Research and being able to Identify the Flaws in them and to Study how they differ from the Genuine Coin some of these are from the 18th/19th Century and have helped me to identify Counterfeit Coins.
If a Coin is a Replica it is a Copy/Fake and there are many of these in the Exonumia part of Numista and there are people who cannot afford the Real thing and buy them as a space filler in there Collection.
I beg to differ, those things to my eyes are awful. But as long as they are marked copy and marketed as such, there should be no issue with them.
Also they are all so crude and deriative, that all but the most stupid and naive people would confuse them for the real thing. Different strokes for different folkes I guess, but not to my taste.
Give me a big ol slab of historic silver genuinity any day!
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Glad to see that my question elicited several firmly worded opinions. I appreciate the opportunity to create dialogue and encourage meaningful conversation.
To be clear, I asked only whether anyone here collects copies that are clearly marked as such. I also wondered how one would include these in a swap list.
AFAIK the Numista term for such copies is "replicas", and they are listed as such under Exonumia. You can add yours if you want, and then add them to your swap list as such.
I couldn't (quickly) find an exact match to any of your specific replicas, but this Buffalo looks a lot like yours. Neat item!
(I don't actually collect replicas, but it would not entirely surprise me that some people would - especially if the originals are types that most people can't actually afford.)
Citeer: "Moneytane"I beg to differ, those things to my eyes are awful. But as long as they are marked copy and marketed as such, there should be no issue with them.
Also they are all so crude and deriative, that all but the most stupid and naive people would confuse them for the real thing. Different strokes for different folkes I guess, but not to my taste.
Give me a big ol slab of historic silver genuinity any day!
I think you underestimate the Forgers there are some out there that will fool most into believing they are the Genuine thing this is why I have a collection of Fakes, Replicas and Copy's these are there for the Sole Purpose of finding out there attributes so that the Genuine can be distinguished from the Fake some have had as much work put into them as the real thing and very difficult so detect if you don't no what your looking for. one is worth £80 the other £1 but which is the £80 one.
There's a lot of good arguments in this thread - some for and some against copies.
The coins I mentioned above are all marked COPY. They look fairly much like the original coins but they're so-called tributes, not counterfeits or forgeries. I wondered whether anyone on Numista actively collects COPY coins. Seems like they're considered replicas, thus exonumia, and I just have to find the right pages or create them if they don't exist.
Meanwhile, I also have a bag of COUNTERFEITS. These are NOT Marked COPY and most look pretty close to the original. How do we handle these items? I'd love to countermark COPY on them myself but I don't have a punch. Ideas?
PS: To continue on IanP's post, here's an example from my stash of counterfeits. One of these is real and one isn't. Can you tell which is which?
Citeer: "OhLook!ACoin!"For Ian P: The left one is real.
For TCon: The right one is real.
Im afraid the Left one is The Fake the Right One is the Genuine one and is a Wreath Pattern Edward VIII Crown from the Patina Collection and the Fake is an Asian one and without the Real one is hard to Distinguish but they got one thing Wrong they gave it a Reeded Edge the Real one is Plain and Hallmarked .925 Silver. Evan I had to go back and recheck as the Fake is so Good. Below is the Numista Entry for the Patina Crown in Exonumia its quite rare and only 975 where minted I think by Coincraft of London.