Help identifying variant of 1989 Venezuela 2 Bolívares [opgelost]

Hey all,

I bought a random coin lot online that had a couple of Venezuelan 2 Bolívares, and I'm having trouble identifying which variant this 1989 is.

Imgur gallery of MY coin here https://imgur.com/a/4bjW2pg 

The existing Numista page has visual reference for two types: 

• 43a.1 (Caracas) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/images/5742f7cc5d28b.jpg
• 43a.2 (Schwerte) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/images/5742f7d8d6318.jpg

What's weird about mine is:

• The reverse portrait looks more like the one that appears on the 5 Bolivares or the 1 Bolivar, or even the Type B variety of the 1967-1988 version, with the tip of the nose aligning more within the I and V. 
• The horse on the obverse coat of arms also has characteristics in common with the other coins linked above, due to its alignment being kind of far to the right, and having a “short” tail. 

Any thoughts on this are welcome! I'm very confused.

Looks like this one to me:

N#315496 

I take it back, I'll keep looking.  What's the diameter and weight?

I followed some links I found on older posts (forgot I could search there first) and found this https://www.numismatica.info.ve/en/coins/mv2bs-cb01.htm

Diameter appears to be about 23mm (my smallest measuring tool is made of crappy plastic though so that has a margin of error), and weight is 7.5g / 0.26oz / 0.24 ozt / 4.8 dwt

It's one of my favorite varieties, so please give us the images of YOUR coin. Without, your statements are not supported adequately.

Welcome to numista.

Yes, please follow the link I provided in my first post.

Sjoelund

It's one of my favorite varieties, so please give us the images of YOUR coin. Without, your statements are not supported adequately.

 

Welcome to numista.

Yes, please follow the link in my first post.

I found this in my notes, if that helps any further:

The tail of the horse is definitely completely different.

Here are the 4 horses now in my “possession”. The short tailed in 3 parts  is yours!

You're right, that variant is NOT mentioned or I haven't found it yet.  Can I use your images to document it, or do you set up your own documentation?

Sjoelund

The tail of the horse is definitely completely different.

 

Here are the 4 horses now in my “possession”. The short tailed in 3 parts  is yours!

 

 

You're right, that variant is NOT mentioned or I haven't found it yet.  Can I use your images to document it, or do you set up your own documentation?

Oh neat! Yes, you may. Is this a coin you would recommend getting variant graded for? Not sure if the companies care very much about variants on non-usa currency.

Thanks, a very interesting variant, I'll have a closer look at it tomorrow, to see if I can figure out, where it was minted.

I never spend anything on grading, I simply do not go for it, so I have absolutely no idea.

This reminds me of a post a while back where the differences in the shield were because of the different mints that made the coins.  Give me some time to dig up that post.

Edit:  Found it:  https://en.numista.com/forum/topic110181.html 

As you can see, I have been busy since yesterday.

At last I think I have found the Werdohl coin, thanks to $and€r (WoC = World of Coins) , so now I have the four variants together in my documentation?

I still have my doubts about the Caracas & the Royal Canadian Mint (RCM) variants, not sure which is which, hence I would very much appreciate your comments.

Thanks for your support.

PS. I kind of put this in another context in another thread, which I'll try to cancel now.

Sjoelund

As you can see, I have been busy since yesterday.

At last I think I have found the Werdohl coin, thanks to $and€r (WoC = World of Coins) , so now I have the four variants together in my documentation?

I still have my doubts about the Caracas & the Royal Canadian Mint (RCM) variants, not sure which is which, hence I would very much appreciate your comments.

 

Thanks for your support.

 

PS. I kind of put this in another context in another thread, which I'll try to cancel now.

Looks great! I can see you used the versions of my photos with the red bounding boxes though. Here's the original versions of the images I used for measuring. 

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