Valuation - Fake Scottish Coin probably Charles I or II [opgelost]

Hi everyone, I've bought recently this coin, it is written “20 pence Charle I Ecosse (Scotland)” .

I think it's a fake, how much does it worths ?

I don't think it's a 20 pence but maybe a 2 pence. Diameter 17mm.

I've found on Numista 3 coins which seems similar to me, could someone help me to identify?

N#55570

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces90512.html

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces90514.html

I can't speak to whether or not it's fake, (why do you think that?) but it's a Scottish 2 pence, also known as a turner. 

cassienbeyer

I can't speak to whether or not it's fake, (why do you think that?) but it's a Scottish 2 pence, also known as a turner. 

I saY that because the legend around the coin makes non sense there are just CGCGCG. And at the time were the coin were minted not a lot of person were able to read. 

Lukas1948

 

I saY that because the legend around the coin makes non sense there are just CGCGCG. And at the time were the coin were minted not a lot of person were able to read. 

Perhaps I'm totally off-base here, but I remember reading (here probably) that at certain points in history, such as after plagues, when labor was in extra-short supply and literate people were even more rare, legends on newly-minted coins had a lot of errors or were plain gibberish. 

Could yours be an example of this?

I don't understand why you think the legend just says CGCGCGCG over and over. I'm seeing Ms, Ns, Os, Is, As… I can't tell you what it says because of wear and photo quality, but I'm seeing lots of letters.

Plenty of people could read in the 17th century. Everyone middle or upper class for sure. 

And you don't have to be able to read to be able to copy letters.

cassienbeyer

I don't understand why you think the legend just says CGCGCGCG over and over.

 

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And you don't have to be able to read to be able to copy letters.

Hello,

The reverse lettering, which should be NEMO ME IMPVNE LACESSIT, is written backwards, as if the engraver had copied it without putting it back to front.

That lettering begins at one o'clock instead of twelve ; moreover, it contains many mistakes (particularly in the word IMPVNE) ; moreover, the style is very bad in comparison to official coins : the SS of LACESSIT are not aligned, as well as the R is getting out of the field on the obverse.

On the obverse, the letters are not aligned, and it is written DCLCCN·EIIIIC instead of CAR·D.G·SCOT·ANG·FR·ET·HIB·R

So contemporary forgery rather than a modern one?

cassienbeyer

So contemporary forgery rather than a modern one?

Of course.