Golden Horde coins. Please help identify time period [opgelost]

Hi I have to coins.

1st is copper pul. However I can’t pin down time period. Weight is 0.69g, 12mm lengh

2nd is silver coin. I think it from Golden Horde or maybe Hazar Khaganat. Not sure. 0.64g 11mm lengh. 

 If anyone can help with those please assist. 

Thank you!

Здравствуйте, у меня есть две монеты, скорее всего времен Золотой орды. 

1 медная, 0.69г, 12 мм думаю это пул.

2 серебрянная 0.64, 11 мм, не уверен что это вообще. Может быть эта монета даже крымских татар или хазар. 

Если кто то специалист помогите пожалуйста определить номинал монет и хотябы приблизительное время чеканки. 

Заранее спасибо.

Maybe someone whi speak arabic or mongolian recognizes any  words at least? Or can help me identify any numbers on them? Or at very least suggest where is top and where is the bottom?

I really hoping to identify those coins. If its Golden Horde it would be really cool as I have nothing from Horde in my collection. But maybe I am just totally off and it something else? Person who gave me those told me that origin of coins where they were found was Moldova, if that’s  helps.

You need to make normal cropped photos and add weight

hello, yes golden horde for the first coin

https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=300595&cat=4724&ppuser=&sortby=d&way=desc

andre48

hello, yes golden horde for the first coin

https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=300595&cat=4724&ppuser=&sortby=d&way=desc

Thank you Sir. Any idea what period or during which Chan was it minted? I kind of figure it is Golden Horde as well. But I can’t pinpoint timeframe or by whose rule it was made.

Grinya

You need to make normal cropped photos and add weight

Thank you Sir, for your replay. I will sent better photos as soon as will get back home from work. I have size and weight in original message already: 

1st is copper pul. However I can’t pin down time period. Weight is 0.69g, 12mm lengh

2nd is silver coin. I think it from Golden Horde or maybe Hazar Khaganat. Not sure. 0.64g 11mm lengh. 

Juchid, Khans of the Golden Horde, 650-686, Black Sea region 

Grinya

You need to make normal cropped photos and add weight

Is those photos better?

1st is copper pul. However I can’t pin down time period. Weight is 0.69g, 12mm lengh

2nd is silver coin. I think it from Golden Horde or maybe Hazar Khaganat. Not sure. 0.64g 11mm lengh. 

andre48

Juchid, Khans of the Golden Horde, 650-686, Black Sea region 

Andre I am confused. Golden hord history played out betweeb 1207 and 1502. It didn’t exist in 650-686. Is some other calendar used in the description? If so do you know by any chance which one? Also I searched all known khans of Golden Horde and none was named Juchid. Is a name of the minted city perhaps? Any ideas? Thank you.

regarding dates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar

Some more info about puls of Costesti settlement (in Russian): https://www.academia.edu/44958626/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3_%D0%B4%D0%B6%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%88%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_Catalog_of_Juchid_copper_coins_of_the_Costesti_settlement_in_Russian_

The second coin looks like Ottoman, not Golden Horde or Khazars

Grinya

regarding dates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar

 

Some more info about puls of Costesti settlement (in Russian): https://www.academia.edu/44958626/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3_%D0%B4%D0%B6%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%88%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_Catalog_of_Juchid_copper_coins_of_the_Costesti_settlement_in_Russian_

 

The second coin looks like Ottoman, not Golden Horde or Khazars

Thank you very much Grinya. Now what Andre sent me makes total sence. I read it with much interest.  

About second coin. Any idea around what time period I should research Ottaman coins? Can you narrow down this search for me any farther? 

Thank you.