Coin ID please

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I have three coins , one I am not sure about , I know it is a 17th Century Roubl and on this example it clearly shows the Czar (?)wearing a well defined crown .

The other coin is Kazimir from  1650 .

Both are in very good condition , but very heavy too.

The third was fairly easily identified , an Austrian Thaler with Sigismund from 1486 ,I know thos has been reproduced for collectors but again this is very heavy .

Any comments much appreciated

Many thanks 

Rog UK

Rog, to begin with can you please photograph the other sides od the coins

can you put a mm ruler next them in the picture, can you weigh them on a letter scale.

thanks

 

btw where did you get them?

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

The upper one is a “copy” of Russian ruble of Alexey Mikhailovich.

 

The bottom is a copy of Polish coin of Jan Casimir 

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

Thank you all for the info , knowing very little about coins I acquired these from a house clearance via a boot sale .

Sadly it seems they are copies , is there any value to them ?

Thank you once again and most appreciated 👍

I must admit I thought because of the weight of them , that would not be copied .Alas I have no scales , but they are not light .

Hi, I would like to ask somebody, that what is this coin?
How much is this coin worth?

Tormyqa

Hi, I would like to ask somebody, that what is this coin?
How much is this coin worth?

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