I'm interested what users here on Numista think about these other two sites.
I don't really like Colnect, since you can only assign one condition per item, and the layout is also not my favourite. (Although I heard it will be fixed soon)
For uCoin, I like the fact that there are tables for every period, and prices are assigned for each coin for fair swaps. Altough they have significantly less users, 91 600, while Numista has 214 600. (123 000 or 134% more).
I switched to Numista a couple months ago, because it has more members and a bigger catalog.
If you have any opinion about uCoin or Colnect, and why they are better/worse than Numista, just write a reply. I'm interested on what other people think.
For banknotes, I think that Numista has reached the same level (except for a few exotic issues, but that's normal because Colnect is older), for coins, I don't even look at it. Concerning discussion forums, even for stamps, they are flat electroencephalogram, if you want to discuss, there is Numista and a really interesting site coincommunity.
Ucoins gives currency valuations well below the market value, but I am used to valuing a swap with Ucoins prices (even if it is below the market price, it is the same case for all coins). The Ucoins photos are interesting because they include all the photos that collectors want to put there (this is a possible improvement for Numista which already stores personal photos so why not share them ?).
2) Have restrictions unless you are a premium member, such as you can only post your questions/replies after some intervals (ignoring).
3) Would not allow you to mention other sites or else you will get a warning from the Admin.
4) Searching for items here is not as good as Numista, IMO.
5) The site is very quiet except for the stamps section.
6) Home page set up is not user friendly (due to too many collection topics). The big pop-up ads on the bottom is not helpful as it reduces my visibility on my screen and no matter how many times you close that, it comes back immediately.
6) I have been a member there since 2010.
7) Good platform for exchange (banknotes). Received many offers, but exchanged once only.
UCoin - no idea who they are as I am not a collector or member here.
6) Home page set up is not user friendly (due to too many collection topics). The big pop-up ads on the bottom is not helpful as it reduces my visibility on my screen and no matter how many times you close that, it comes back immediately.
6) Home page set up is not user friendly (due to too many collection topics). The big pop-up ads on the bottom is not helpful as it reduces my visibility on my screen and no matter how many times you close that, it comes back immediately.
You should try an ad blocker.
Thanks. I do not know how to do that, but nowadays, I only visit that site once in a blue moon for banknotes info, if I cannot find it here.
Regarding Colnect, I prefer Numista when it comes to… well, coins and banknotes. When it comes to stamps an ordinary deadwood catalogue does the trick for me. If I understand it correctly, there is nothing called complete sets on Colnect, you have to swap or buy/sell each stamp individually, and I really don't want to break up complete sets. I've never been to uCoin, no need.
Edit. And Colnect has their own agenda when it comes to categorizing stamp issueing entities.
Used Colnect for a while when Numista didn't have a Banknote section.
Because that section is quite a bit older it is somewhat more complete in some areas and I like the more detailed and uniform description of certain elements but dislike the page style as a whole. I am also not a fan of microscopic changes (I look for such stuff work related enough I don't need that for a hobby) so the subtype splitting I severely dislike. Some on Numista want this too, they really don't like or grouping of banknotes but for someone who's not to keen on playing where is Waldo between to open tabs every time to log in a new note I am all in for a tighter grouping (a certain Ucoin feature could help even more with that).
I also don't like the policies of picture use there and the owner isn't to my liking either.
Ucoin, have an account but only because I wanted to take some pictures down that they “borrowed” and plopped their watermark on (which I really don't like, same as Colnect). They acted quickly but the certain Israeli member who uploaded them in the first place uploaded them again after a week or so with no problem.
What I like there is that you have visuals for all years/types (I hope that we finally get this feature too), also the price over time is not bad but it probably has a similar problem like the Numista values that on a Global scale these values can range from decent to absolutely useless. The split of circulating and numismatic products there is also solved quite good.
Overall Numista is my favourite because of the user based catalog which the other two lag and the more wiki-y style of the catalog pages especially for someone who is not interested that much in swapping and more into information about certain items.
That Banknote Identifier pop-up and the ads at the bottom are ignoring (IMO). The search (banknotes for me) is better arranged here as when I am, say looking for a $5 note, I can see them all on a single page, where else on Colnect, I have to search page by page.
It is good to have more than one website assisting collectors but the page(s) set up needs improvement to make it more enjoyable.
Colnect sometimes does not even load properly for me. It's a very outdated website that started banknotes long before Numista (but “borrowed” many coin photos from here too…)
Kenny
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After a whole day i could still not use it because the interface was so trash. It did not look good at all. Then i found Numista and i closed my Colnect account..
One good thing about Colnect is that if you post a question in a language other than English, there is a translate button that you can use to convert it into English for you to read. I do not believe you have this feature here, right? The translate button here is only from Chinese to English.
One good thing about Colnect is that if you post a question in a language other than English, there is a translate button that you can use to convert it into English for you to read. I do not believe you have this feature here, right? The translate button here is only from Chinese to English.
The following languages are translated on Numista:
But only to the working languages French, English, Spanish and maybe the new ones German, Italian etc. (which is not bad imo, we are not google and every translation costs money).
That Banknote Identifier pop-up and the ads at the bottom are ignoring (IMO). The search (banknotes for me) is better arranged here as when I am, say looking for a $5 note, I can see them all on a single page, where else on Colnect, I have to search page by page.
It is good to have more than one website assisting collectors but the page(s) set up needs improvement to make it more enjoyable.
Not quite sure what they are ignoring.
Anyway, almost all browsers have addons that can be activated, most likely under the “Tools” navigation tab. The addon activated in my browser is called “AdBlocker Ultimate”. This addon allows for un-blocking webpages of your choice.
Another annoying thing comes to mind with the Colnect website. Let's say one collects used stamps. It seems that it's impossible to see the condition of the physical stamp in question since the images are all generic. For instance it's impossible to see whether the stamp is CTO (Canceled To Order), something many collectors try to avoid.
I joined Colnect before Numista & had many more swap propositions there.
It wasn't long after using the site that I joined Numista.
Then, after I made a few contributions towards Colnects catalogue (& elsewhere), I noticed that I was deleted “as the author” for the few contributions I made on the subject of “Collecting banknotes.” My input (about 3 paragraphs in different sections) were suddenly attributed to a Colnect moderator. Next, I was contacted by admin to provide them with more ID, including my passport # stating I was flagged as a possible spammer (or some such nonsense). Some of the images I contributed were then used for their catalogue. This request for personal info (& accusation that I was a spammer) blew me away & I let them know it. Before things escalated, I simply quit. A very bumpy ride with that site.
For me, Numista is in general a website much superior in almost everything to the other two. The design, functionality and information surpasses, in my opinion, the other two websites mentioned.
I don't like almost anything about Colnect. I have been a coin collector for years, and for me it is not a practical website. Also, I have the feeling that they have a serious problem with image rights in the photos on the website.
Ucoin has a much smaller catalog in number, periods and information than Numista, but there are three things that I really like and that I think Numista could include in some way:
1. The table of circulation coins (on the same screen you can see all the coins in circulation and, in this way, see the years that are missing and the percentage completed).
2. Images from all years of the same type (obvious advantage to see variants)
3. Swaps with associated prices (makes agreements easier and makes an exchange faster)
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Banknote referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea and Spain
Never heard of either of them, from what I have read here, won't do so anytime soon.
Only other coin board was Coin Community Forum, which had no catalogue and was mostly chat. It had some great people and threads but some of the worst moderators around. They were always pushing this “family” ethos and thus words like hell and bloody were banned. It was also hugely Amerocentric and conservative. I got one warning and then a lifetime ban, because one guy called Dorado kept breaking rules and loading 4MB images that slowed our computers down. He started flame wars and insulted everyone - yet got away with it as he was a big donor and American or Canadian. I was booted for being “high maintenance” and a lot of people were upset and the board has gone into decline.
The board was also quite racist and would jump down someones throat if they did not speak English.
Numista on the other hand is great, the catalogue is easily the best and most fact laden, which helps as for me having a coin or note is not enough - the context is important too! Plus I like the forums - generally tolerant and a nice international feel. Plus its a place I can show some of my better coins to you all.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
6) Home page set up is not user friendly (due to too many collection topics). The big pop-up ads on the bottom is not helpful as it reduces my visibility on my screen and no matter how many times you close that, it comes back immediately.
UCoin - no idea who they are as I am not a collector or member here.
I use adblokcers - plenty of them around. You can block intrusive ads and keep ads on some sites like Numista, whose ads are mostly harmless and relevant (They often show coins!). But I know what you mean, some chatboards have really bad ads after each post. Bad ads often show borderline porno, gambling, stuff like Thai brides, pop up ads advertising fake Goochie bags and games like Evian that show large breasted women.
Then you have the “You have definitely won an Iphone 15 or a $1000 supamaket voucher etc”
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
I agree that Numista is the best site for a catalog and forum. That is not to say there are no problems. The banknote pages have become a small disaster with lines for banknotes that don’t exist, duplicate banknotes listed two or three times, spelling errors, inconsistency and a host of other problems that could be avoided if the referees took the time to verify and learn English grammar. As a professional editor, I look at many of the pages and throw my hands up not knowing where to begin with suggestions for edits. Lots of potential here but still problems with formatting. With P numbers fading into history, a complete change to a universally accepted number system will be very necessary to make this site more user friendly.
I've started cataloguing my collection with uCoin, and I still try to keep my coin collections in sync between those two services. I've manually migrated 95% of my collection from uCoin, but there are some coins left (mostly because of minutiae in type variants).
For newer coins, I usually catalogue them in uCoin first and then, minutes later, in Numista. I do that for three reasons:
I think the “Add new coin” modal in uCoin is extremely useful, and I don't know any way to add a new coin to my collection in Numista in as few keystrokes/clicks
uCoin proprietary U# codes (for coins too new to have a PM# or Y#) are less arbitrary and much better for sorting coins than Numista's own N#
Comparing photos of each variant is often useful1 when comparing subtypes
Why I still use Numista more and more as a catalogue nowadays, I see some value in uCoin as an end-user.
I don't do swaps on the internet, so I can't comment about this aspect. I've never used Colnect, too.
1 Typically, I think it's a bigger problem with banknotes than coins; for banknotes, I use the Bank Note Museum as a companion.
P.S. Apparently uCoin may start showing notgelds and banknotes in the future, too. I've seen them in the translating queue.
Previously I used Colnect a lot to keep track of my banknotes (before Numista got it's own banknote section).
But after that, it's only to keep track of my stamps, my coin and banknote collections there are just a mirror of my collection here.
For banknotes it's 100% mirrored, but for coins… their coin catalog for coins before the 19th century is almost nothing.
And Colnect have the “habit” of listing banknote signatures as separate pages. It's very inconvenient to navigate all these variants of a single note, but I admit that it can be useful for identifying a signature because all variant pages have an image of the signature.
The only area that Colnect catalog is more complete than Numista's is on the German notgelds, but that's only because our catalog was created more recently (remember that our banknote catalog was only started on early covid pandemic).
That Banknote Identifier pop-up and the ads at the bottom are ignoring (IMO). The search (banknotes for me) is better arranged here as when I am, say looking for a $5 note, I can see them all on a single page, where else on Colnect, I have to search page by page.
It is good to have more than one website assisting collectors but the page(s) set up needs improvement to make it more enjoyable.
Kai, you should download UBlock Origin, then that will help in blocking ads & pop-ups.
If you are on Facebook, FB Purity will help, then you won't get the junk ads.
FB Purity is excellent, although makesure you update it a lot as Facebook keeps adding sneaky new features (I got a vote reminder yesterday) and you have to block them.
I use Adblock Plus for everything else. Ads and Paywalls may still pop up, but its best trait is no ads on Youtube!
You can also turn Adblock off for some sites like Numista.
Again all my coin stuff now is through Numista - it gets better and better.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
FB Purity is excellent, although makesure you update it a lot as Facebook keeps adding sneaky new features (I got a vote reminder yesterday) and you have to block them.
I use Adblock Plus for everything else. Ads and Paywalls may still pop up, but its best trait is no ads on Youtube!
You can also turn Adblock off for some sites like Numista.
Again all my coin stuff now is through Numista - it gets better and better.
+1
Adblock is essential for me.
Another wise strategy is to abandon google (when possible). I have used Duckduckgo as a search engine for at least a decade (or more). Once you abandoned google, you'll find a lot less junk mail & bots tracking your searches, & crap in junk mailbox.
Numista is superior to the others IMO (tho I don't know the coin site). Once you have a team of collectors collaborating & contributing, that's a tough act to follow.
Another wise strategy is to abandon google (when possible). I have used Duckduckgo as a search engine for at least a decade (or more). Once you abandoned google, you'll find a lot less junk mail & bots tracking your searches, & crap in junk mailbox.
If you get rid of Google entirely you'll never ever see ads for things that you have never searched for but written about in your Gmail correspondance.
I'm trying to use it so i can exchange with some of the collectors in my country but damn… I really dislike Colnect and how they set up the entire website.
The only area that Colnect catalog is more complete than Numista's is on the German notgelds, but that's only because our catalog was created more recently (remember that our banknote catalog was only started on early covid pandemic).
Yes, that's true, but as you say, the Numista banknotes section started in April 2020 (if I remember correctly) and more German Notgeld notes are continuously being introduced, so soon our catalog in this section will be like that of Colnect.
In addition, in other sections such as Spanish Notgeld banknotes (not as popular as those from Germany or Austria, maybe because of its low print run and high value or because of its designs?), Numista has more than 3400 notes listed (and increasing every day) and Colnect only has less than 250. 🙂
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Banknote referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea and Spain
Colnect: Too many types of collections, so the site is not good in any, also I see lots of coins are from Numista or Ucoin there, so that speaks for itself.
Ucoin: Everyone I know that uses ucoin says it loves the tables and would swap to Numista if that tables exist here. There are too many errors, like exonumia treated as official coins, they follow Krause strictly but it is a paid site and as mentioned above, full of ads. Do not have older coins (1600-).
Numista is away from perfection but I guess is the best now, the old coins are a bit messy but in time everything will be better.
Ucoin is daily upgrading and in long term will be a great catalog, best features: tables and one picture for each year of the coins.
Colnect. My banknote collection is listed on this website, and am generally very happy with it. Each catalogue number is listed separately, so signatures can be seen. Their German Notgeld section is extremely well organized.
Numista. My coin collection is list here and am mostly very happy with it, although lately, the administration has suddenly decided that some countries are moved, without telling anyone prior or post transition.
All of sudden many countries that had their own alphabetical listing disappeared to be eventually found under another country. United Kingdom, with its sub sections, being one of these that became very frustrating, especially I expect to members who have only been here a year or so.
The sight is supposed to be for members, but administrators seem to run it how they want, without thought of the other 99.9% of the membership, which, in my opinion is wrong.
I've started with uCoin and then switched to Numista, never used Colnect. 99,9% of my time I spend on Numista, but If coin is present in uCoin catalogue I'm still adding coins there as well.
Except tables of coins which were already mentioned I really like that on each page I see when exactly I've added that coin to my collection
I think this is very useful for users from countries with unstable local currencies like Ukraine, Russian, Brazil, Argentina, Turkey etc, I can quickly check that I bought coin on April 2018 for 250 UAH and at that time it was roughly 10$, today 250 UAH is roughly 6,5$.
I'm not selling/swapping coins right now, but maybe in 10-20 years or after retirement this info will be helpful for me. I'm not investor, but collector, but it's nice to see that some coins increased their value even in $ despite devaluation of local currency, so strategy of buying coins instead of dollars also works)
I'm using Numista for my coins and banknotes collections as well as for the forum and I'm using Colnect, despite a less friendly and more ads intrusive user interface, for what can't be covered with Numista - my soviet bonds and soviet lottery tickets collections. Both are good enough and do the job for free. Don't know about uCoin.
Here in my country several collectors are migrating from Numista to Ucoin (as can be seen in the last Cerulean statistics). Since I am very active in the numismatic community here, I see the reason is: - Lack of a portuguese version. - Numista guidelines not alligned to collectors habits. - Economic reasons.
For me, Numista is the best of the world. Even with its flaws.
Here in my country several collectors are migrating from Numista to Ucoin (as can be seen in the last Cerulean statistics). Since I am very active in the numismatic community here, I see the reason is: - Lack of a portuguese version. - Numista guidelines not alligned to collectors habits. - Economic reasons.
For me, Numista is the best of the world. Even with its flaws.
Hi my friend, when you say "economic reasons", what do you mean?
I completely agree with your last sentence, for my Numista it is still the best.
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Banknote referee for: Andorra, Equatorial Guinea and Spain
This is especially sad as there was not enough volunteers to launch Portuguese version translation so we did not start it …
If there are enough dedicated translators, Numista can be in Portuguese. (We have under 10 people for German translation and under 5 for Italian for the record). Spanish was done by 4-5 people I believe.
I mean, people here are buying less coins and only swaping inside the country as the mailing is expensive, as Ucoin have more ppl from Brazil now, there are more migration to that plataform.
About portuguese version I thought a lot to volunteer to do the job but there is the problem for “what” should be translated, most of users have the country names in english, the portuguese version of some issuers are tottally uncommon and might be used in Portugal but not in Brazil. The german issuers are what comes in my mind, like “Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel” is “Brunsvique-Volfembutel" no one uses that here, or “Dutch Republic” = “República das Sete Províncias Unidas dos Países Baixos”… holy moses
But in the other hand, the site interface in .pt would be amazing.
It is up to translators to translate to common versions. I think most translations would be of “Lordship of” “City of” etc… and not the actual names.
If anyone would like to give the Portuguese version a try, lets do it.
I think I was the only volunteer in the original thread, and I'm still interested in starting this effort as soon as possible.
One key problem that needs to be solved is related to the nature of the Portuguese language, that is divided between two varieties: the Brazilian Portuguese and the European Portuguese. Almost 90% of the total native speakers of Portuguese use the Brazilian variety, but it's mostly spoken in only one country (Brazil) – the rest of the countries adopt the European Portuguese with minor divergences.
While a recent reform helped unifying the orthography of the two varieties, one area where this is still lagging is in the toponyms: on a quick estimate made by me, it diverges in ~17% of the cases (considering current independent countries and dependent territories); I'm glad to share the data. We could make a conscious effort to use less common, but more neutral, varieties of the toponyms, but we could hardly make it much below 10%. In the case of demonyms, I guess the divergence can be even stronger.
I think the ideal solution would be two separate translations (pt-BR and pt-PT); that's the industry standard for large localization teams. While it's not viable, I think the best compromise would be sticking to one single variety (I'm biased towards Brazilian Portuguese), trying to be as neutral as possible, and, if technically possible, adding aliases to the other variety.
Talking about Ucoin, now they too have a “NRI”, but is not hidden for the members like Numista do, it is possible to know the number of collections with the coin, fantastic!
Numista has much more coins types and information, more realistic prices (including auctions) and is more consistent (for example doesn't have patterns or privately minted tokens in coin section). Plus it has exonumia and banknotes section, that are also useful, even though I don't collect them.
Ucoin on other hand has a table that makes it much easier to look at your collection and what coins you don't have.
Colnect is used by me only to verify what coin sets have been issued. Although, unfortunately it doesn't have many of the coin sets.
Some news: uCoin have greatly improved their dashboard in the last days. Now it contains more charts, diagrams, records, and analytic tables than the dashboard in Numista. A great source of ideas for improvement of Numista!
Some news: uCoin have greatly improved their dashboard in the last days. Now it contains more charts, diagrams, records, and analytic tables than the dashboard in Numista. A great source of ideas for improvement of Numista!
I recently came across some news on Ucoin, very nice, also now they provide a detailed count of issuers, including those not yet in your collection and many improvments.
Unfortunelly Numista will loose much of its community to Ucoin, much because after the changes merging medals and coins and all issuers messed together. At least is what I hear in some coin groups.
Congratulations to Ucoin making the site every day better.
Some news: uCoin have greatly improved their dashboard in the last days. Now it contains more charts, diagrams, records, and analytic tables than the dashboard in Numista. A great source of ideas for improvement of Numista!
I recently came across some news on Ucoin, very nice, also now they provide a detailed count of issuers, including those not yet in your collection and many improvments.
Unfortunelly Numista will loose much of its community to Ucoin, much because after the changes merging medals and coins and all issuers messed together. At least is what I hear in some coin groups.
Congratulations to Ucoin making the site every day better.
We will introduce some new cool features soon that will force those users to return to Numista 😀
Some news: uCoin have greatly improved their dashboard in the last days. Now it contains more charts, diagrams, records, and analytic tables than the dashboard in Numista. A great source of ideas for improvement of Numista!
I recently came across some news on Ucoin, very nice, also now they provide a detailed count of issuers, including those not yet in your collection and many improvments.
Unfortunelly Numista will loose much of its community to Ucoin, much because after the changes merging medals and coins and all issuers messed together. At least is what I hear in some coin groups.
Congratulations to Ucoin making the site every day better.
We will introduce some new cool features soon that will force those users to return to Numista 😀
Medals and Coins are hardly merged, they are just searchable together.
I used the search in daily basis a lot, also I help people to use the site, I can tell with no doubt, that the search function now is worse, not intuitive and much more unclear than before. First we had two options, now we have several.
But this was discussed in several threads. This ship has sailed.
So you are unhappy with having more options to search? I remember having to search for items twice when I did not know if it is coin or exonumia. That is now gone.
So you are unhappy with having more options to search? I remember having to search for items twice when I did not know if it is coin or exonumia. That is now gone.
It is not about happiness; it is about enhancement, smoothness, and intuitiveness.
Now, you have to search at least twice because you need to set the boxes, click this, unclick that… Or select all, but then the result will be all merged, exonumia and coins.
How is unclicking exonumia different than clicking on Exonumia and making search again in different catalogue less intuitive?
I understand you think is better, but let me try to show the point of view of another person:
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I am a novice collector, there is an auction ending in the next minute, omg, look this coin I want!
So, I open Numista and my saved search is :
I type Peseta 1992 saharaui…. No results…
Wait, must be because there is some filters active, let me change that
Now we are talking…
Wait, no results either, must not be in the catalog, ok, just in case, lets check the tokens filter:
I am not used to tokens so I will keep all clicked, I just unclicked the coins because the coins that showed before were not the one I want
😦
Ok, maybe is a super rarity, not in the catalog, just in case I will re-check if some filte is wrong.
Seems all ok, I will try again, now with Medals (cmon, “Medal”?) , should I unclick the previous filters? I am not sure, I will select all at once, except banknotes because I do not collect that
So it is a Medal, I am not sure what a medal is, I collect just coins, but I liked this one, I will buy anyway.
Coins: Everything issued by any monetary authority that is part of a legal structure (whether recognized or not). Those items can or can not be used for payments or store of value.
Exonumia: Everything else thar resemble coins.
Now:
Can someone provide an example of any coin, token or medal that do not fit in one of the two categories based on that definition (Coins or Exonumia)?
How is unclicking exonumia different than clicking on Exonumia and making search again in different catalogue less intuitive?
I understand you think is better, but let me try to show the point of view of another person:
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I am a novice collector, there is an auction ending in the next minute, omg, look this coin I want!
So, I open Numista and my saved search is :
I type Peseta 1992 saharaui…. No results…
Wait, must be because there is some filters active, let me change that
Now we are talking…
Wait, no results either, must not be in the catalog, ok, just in case, lets check the tokens filter:
I am not used to tokens so I will keep all clicked, I just unclicked the coins because the coins that showed before were not the one I want
😦
Ok, maybe is a super rarity, not in the catalog, just in case I will re-check if some filte is wrong.
Seems all ok, I will try again, now with Medals (cmon, “Medal”?) , should I unclick the previous filters? I am not sure, I will select all at once, except banknotes because I do not collect that
So it is a Medal, I am not sure what a medal is, I collect just coins, but I liked this one, I will buy anyway.
Too late, the coin is already gone.
End of story
Only registered users can have filters.
So registered user that preselected filters just for coins because he collects them, struggles to find this fantasy piece, and somehow decides to buy it even when he/she finally finds out it is a fantasy piece? Sorry, this is just biased.
PS: And your further comment just says it all. What cannot be used as a payment is simply not a coin. Your sentence would put things like these into coins: N#417632 It is issued by monetary authority and cannot be used for payment.
And exonumia would be just privately issued fantasy “coins”.
And seems always someone say “uh, is not complicate for me, I smart”
We need to remember: Every expert was a beginner once.
About the coin I used for the example: It is an example, the coin or token is irrelevant.
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About the definitions, I agree, might be tweaked.
Coins: Everything issued by any monetary authority that is part of a legal structure (whether recognized or not) with a denomination. Those items can or can not be used for payments or store of value.
How is unclicking exonumia different than clicking on Exonumia and making search again in different catalogue less intuitive?
I understand you think is better, but let me try to show the point of view of another person:
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I am a novice collector, there is an auction ending in the next minute, omg, look this coin I want!
So, I open Numista and my saved search is :
I type Peseta 1992 saharaui…. No results…
Wait, must be because there is some filters active, let me change that
Now we are talking…
Wait, no results either, must not be in the catalog, ok, just in case, lets check the tokens filter:
I am not used to tokens so I will keep all clicked, I just unclicked the coins because the coins that showed before were not the one I want
😦
Ok, maybe is a super rarity, not in the catalog, just in case I will re-check if some filte is wrong.
Seems all ok, I will try again, now with Medals (cmon, “Medal”?) , should I unclick the previous filters? I am not sure, I will select all at once, except banknotes because I do not collect that
So it is a Medal, I am not sure what a medal is, I collect just coins, but I liked this one, I will buy anyway.
Too late, the coin is already gone.
End of story
I know why it was done, but I agree that having Fantasy coins among Medals is not user friendly and counterintuitive
It seems that uCoin will also add mint sets to the catalog. They already have a “mint set” section for translators. This would be an another great advancement.
It seems that uCoin will also add mint sets to the catalog. They already have a “mint set” section for translators. This would be an another great advancement.
I still don't get why a mint set section is a big no-no.
It seems that uCoin will also add mint sets to the catalog. They already have a “mint set” section for translators. This would be an another great advancement.
I still don't get why a mint set section is a big no-no.
But it's not a big no-no. To quote Xavier, "I agree with this idea. It would be interesting to list coin sets (with links to the coins and/or tokens in the set). It would facilitate for people who collect sets or exchange sets. However, this is quite low in my priority list and it will not be be implemented before at least 1 year. I rejected a similar idea in the past for this reason. Let's keep this one opened to track the idea for the long term."
It seems that uCoin will also add mint sets to the catalog. They already have a “mint set” section for translators. This would be an another great advancement.
I still don't get why a mint set section is a big no-no.
But it's not a big no-no. To quote Xavier, "I agree with this idea. It would be interesting to list coin sets (with links to the coins and/or tokens in the set). It would facilitate for people who collect sets or exchange sets. However, this is quite low in my priority list and it will not be be implemented before at least 1 year. I rejected a similar idea in the past for this reason. Let's keep this one opened to track the idea for the long term."
At the beginning of next year @Xavier will summaries achievements/statistics for 2024 and will announce goals for 2025, stay tuned.
It seems that uCoin will also add mint sets to the catalog. They already have a “mint set” section for translators. This would be an another great advancement.
I still don't get why a mint set section is a big no-no.
But it's not a big no-no. To quote Xavier, "I agree with this idea. It would be interesting to list coin sets (with links to the coins and/or tokens in the set). It would facilitate for people who collect sets or exchange sets. However, this is quite low in my priority list and it will not be be implemented before at least 1 year. I rejected a similar idea in the past for this reason. Let's keep this one opened to track the idea for the long term."
Yeah, but we've been asking for this for like 5 years now …
I don't recommend Ucoin to anyone.
This site is run by someone focused solely on profit. He doesn't listen to suggestions for site development, such as standardizing the division of euro coins into BU and PROOF, because these are completely different coins than UNC. He doesn't treat members fairly. The premium fees are very expensive. For example, he wants 15 euros a month from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) , while others get it for 4 euros.
To be fair I can often see no differences between business strikes ("UNC") and set finishes (BU). At least in the last couple of years circulation coins and the BU coins in many sets from many nations look almost identical and have dings and scratches (sometimes worse then a new coin I get from my super market cashier).
But proof coin are definitely a different animal and very easy to discern.
To be fair I can often see no differences between business strikes ("UNC") and set finishes (BU).
Its quite litterally physically impossible to distinguish a BU and an UNC coin if they both enter circulation. Sometimes theres a few years where no business strikes were issued and its quite obvious that the coin is BU, even though it may look horrid if you find it in your change after a few years of the coin circulating. But if the BU coin entered circulation and loses its shine and etc. and that year had a lot of business strikes aswell, its just indistinguishable from a normal coin
