Help with coin ID and valuation needed. [opgelost]

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Hello I'm new here and old to coin collecting!

I need help IDing and valuing the following coins.

1. The date on this one appears to be (1)606 

Weight 32.37 g.

46 mm

 

2.  27g silver

     42 mm 

1664

    

3.     27g

    45 mm

1657

4.  21.7g 

     40 mm 

1668

 I did see some variations of this coin on the website- but not this variety with the DO…-starting on the right.

 

Id's and values needed. Any will be appreciated and thanks in advance!! All appear to be silver-lighting effects may alter the appearnce.

  1. Wismar Thaler KM#11 - doesn't seem to be in the catalog
  2. Dutch Republic (Campen) Leeuwendaalder - doesn't seem to be in the catalog
  3. N#189728 
  4. N#111392 

Idolenz

  1. Wismar Thaler KM#11 - doesn't seem to be in the catalog
  2. Dutch Republic (Campen) Leeuwendaalder - doesn't seem to be in the catalog
  3. N#189728 
  4. N#111392

Thanks- No.4 is not the same as the motto on my coin goes clockwise from right to left and the one in the photo goes counter-clockwise from left to right. The reverse appears to be the same though.

Where did you find the KM# for the Wismar Thaler?

Thanks, Bob

There are 3 variants for the year one of them is probably yours.

When I didn't find the Wismar coin on Numista I googled and a uCoin page listed it but without picture, checked Krause and it looked like it fits from the sparse description.

I think KM-A11 on the Wismar coin (date (1)606 and arms divide date).  

I am seeing about 29 g. for the other type of 1606 thaler, but yours is apparently rare (I couldn't find a published sale and weight). 

 

The Kampen Leeuwendaalder is a common date.  This one did not get the opening bid of 150 eu  https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6870132

 

Here is a recent sale of the Hungarian thaler:  https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=6524432&AucID=7577&Lot=34004&Val=c95f37e4fbab2e194a0844c0f106fafa

Yours is a bit less evenly struck and has comparable wear, but has several damaged areas which will reduce the value significantly:  it has been mounted, has the deep scratch in the field at 3:00 obverse, and the X scratch reverse.  

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