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I have this broken low quality silver (or silver plated bronze, I'm not sure) from emperor Probus. It is  around 22 mm in diameter, and weights roughly 2 grams ( but keep in mind that piece of it is missing, so it's probably more than 2 grams in total) .

Should I make a new page for it? I have never added roman coins to the catalog and I know nothing about this coin except for the fact that (presumably) the empeor  Probus is on it.

You are right that it is Probus.

 

The reverse is probably CLEMENTIA TEMP, the emperor on left holding an eagle-tipped sceptre receiving a globe from Jupiter holding a sceptre.   It's a very common type, especially in the eastern mints.  The legend ending … PROBVS AVG narrows down the options somewhat, but there's still dozens of options it could be.  Some people are skilled enough to identify mint from style alone, but I am not one of them.

 

 It looks like there might be a V between the two figures.  <<IF>> this is correct, and it is very difficult to be certain, it would likely be from Cyzicus, issued in 276 CE, from the first issue according to Pink's schema.

A nicer example

https://www.probuscoins.fr/coin?id=3659

 

The coin would have been bronze with about 5% silver content, originally with a silver wash to make it look more like a silver coin.

Purplexed

You are right that it is Probus.

 

The reverse is probably CLEMENTIA TEMP, the emperor on left holding an eagle-tipped sceptre receiving a globe from Jupiter holding a sceptre.   It's a very common type, especially in the eastern mints.  The legend ending … PROBVS AVG narrows down the options somewhat, but there's still dozens of options it could be.  Some people are skilled enough to identify mint from style alone, but I am not one of them.

 

 It looks like there might be a V between the two figures.  <> this is correct, and it is very difficult to be certain, it would likely be from Cyzicus, issued in 276 CE, from the first issue according to Pink's schema.

A nicer example

https://www.probuscoins.fr/coin?id=3659

 

The coin would have been bronze with about 5% silver content, originally with a silver wash to make it look more like a silver coin.

I think that we got him! Thank you very much. I will add it to the catalog later today or tomorrow .

Status gewijzigd naar Opgelost (LazarVeric, 25-dec-2024, 20:13)

We already have it: N#293262 

Giobruno

We already have it: N#293262 

I'm not sure if this is the exact match, they are really similar but there are some really small differences, for example notice the position of “N” & “T” on the reverse, here they are more pushed to left than on my coin. But thank you anyway.

LazarVeric

Giobruno

We already have it: N#293262 

I'm not sure if this is the exact match, they are really similar but there are some really small differences, for example notice the position of “N” & “T” on the reverse, here they are more pushed to left than on my coin. But thank you anyway 😄

Didn't notice any of these details.

 

I linked this one simply because it's the only one from Cyzicus we got here.

 

This is the search for CLEMENTIA TEMP coins for Probus:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=rome&r=clementia+temp&st=all&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=110&ie=&ca=3&no=&v=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=&f=&t=&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&g=&se=&c=&wi=&sw=

 

Most of them are from Antioch or Siscia, and only one from Cyzicus, which is the one we're looking for according to Purplexed.

And the Cyzicus coin have the “V on field” that he mentioned (check the year lines).

The coinage of Probus is insanely complicated, and it is really difficult to access the literature on it.   The RIC volume is massively out of date, and is not very useful.  The closest thing to a standard reference was an article written in German published in 1949, although there are more recent articles dealing with individual mints or questions.   He struck in a number of mints, with a new one being identified as recently as 2015!   So it's probably a bit too much like tilting at windmills to rely too much on a wiki-type catalogue like the one on numista to be anything like complete.  The probus.fr site is really good, but you do need a fairly good level of knowledge to be able to get the best out of it.

 

There's at least 200 variations of the CLEMENTIA TEMP type from different mints and issues.  However most of those either have no marks in the field or have Greek officina numerals there.  The only issue that has a V is the first from Cyzicus, which was produced in 5 workshops (officinae) labelled P, S, T, Q V.   

 

I'm 99.9% sure it is Probus/CLEMENTIA TEMP, but only something like 50-50 that it is the V/XXI issue from Cyzicus.

I have searched catalog on probuscoins and found two more that look identical to mine, https://www.probuscoins.fr/coin?id=82 and https://www.probuscoins.fr/coin?id=3655 . In conclusion, we know for certain that this was minted in Cyzicus “V” officina and there are soo many identical coins with really small differences, it is too hard to find exact match, so I'll just use the existing page on Numista. Thank you guys once again for help.

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