Coin identification

Hi, 

I've come across these two coins but due to so little information on them, I wouldn't even know where to start looking to identify them. 

Firstly, are they even legitimate coins or just copies/fantasy coins? 

Secondly, is anybody able to identify them or any part of them at all? 

Many thanks, 

Tom 

First one is a byzantine 5 Nummi

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=byzance&r=5+nummi&st=1-2-3-5&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=&ie=&ca=3&no=&v=&a=&dg=&i=&b=&m=&f=&t=&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&g=&se=&c=&wi=&sw=

Second one do not look like a coin, maybe a token of some sort

Hi, 

Thank you so much!! 

Wow, why are there are so many different coins of the same value? If they all have the same value why not make them all the same? 

I did think the second one might just be a token or fantasy coin as well. 

Thank you again. 

TomB123

Wow, why are there are so many different coins of the same value? If they all have the same value why not make them all the same? 

 

One side of those coins depicts different person. Other side has lettering differences. Weight changes as later governments start reducing amount of precious metal content in coins or change alloy to cheaper one.

If you put them all in one page, you just create extra level in hierarchy as items will be separated into subcategories.