4-ANCIENT GREECE Mysia pergamon. asklepios Snake

Hello

I've obtained several Greek coins and can't quite classify them.

Although I received some information about the coins, it wasn't enough to fully identify them or obtain any additional information.

I'll upload the coins one by one.

Here's the description you gave me and a photo of the coin:

4-ANCIENT GREECE
Mysia pergamon. asklepios
Snake

Weight: 2.50 gr.
Measurement: 13.5 mm

I appreciate any additional help you can give me.

Regards

Hola

Conseguí varias monedas griegas y no logro catalogarlas bien.

Si bien me pasaron algo de información de las piezas, no fue suficiente para identificarla completamente u obtener un poco más de información.

Voy a ir subiendo de a 1 las monedas

Les dejo la descripción que me pasaron y una foto de la moneda:

4-GRECIA ANTIGUA
Mysia pergamon. asklepios
Snake

Peso: 2.50 gr.
Medida: 13.5 mm




Agradezco cualquier ayuda adicional que puedan darme.

Saludos

Alejandro

Didn't found a match neither in Numista nor in Wildwinds.

But the generic ID looks right; Pergamon, Mysia.

In Numista, we have N#307934 , BMC 164, a little similar but not what we're looking for.

And in Wildwinds this is the closest one, BMC 169:

https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/mysia/pergamon/BMC_169.txt 

https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/mysia/pergamon/BMC_169.jpg

Some variation in size and weight but the rest matches, except the part where it have a Γ at right of the snake while yours have an A at left of the snake.

We need someone with a catalog at hand to finish solving this one.

Anyway, it's not in our catalog.

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4369047

Giobruno

Didn't found a match neither in Numista nor in Wildwinds.

 

But the generic ID looks right; Pergamon, Mysia.

 

 

In Numista, we have N#307934 , BMC 164, a little similar but not what we're looking for.

 

And in Wildwinds this is the closest one, BMC 169:

https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/mysia/pergamon/BMC_169.txt 

https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/mysia/pergamon/BMC_169.jpg

Some variation in size and weight but the rest matches, except the part where it have a Γ at right of the snake while yours have an A at left of the snake.

 

We need someone with a catalog at hand to finish solving this one.

 

Anyway, it's not in our catalog.

Hello

Thank you very much for the reply.

I had seen those two coins, both the Numista and Wildwind coins, however, they are exactly as you say; they don't match due to minor differences.

I'll keep investigating to see what I can find.

Best regards.

Hola

Muchas gracias por la respuesta.

Esas 2 monedas, tanto la de numista como la de wildwind las había visto, sin embargo, es tal cual tu dices, no coinciden por pequeñas diferencias.

Seguiré investigando a ver que encuentro.

Saludos

Alejandro

Don't need to look anymore, tatinos nailed it on his search.

But, while his link leads to a perfect match, it represents a coin that is not yet on our database and needs to be added here.

tatinos

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4369047

Thank you very much, Tatinos.

 
That coin is exactly like mine. However, I continued researching based on the coin's cataloging and found several others with the same cataloging and attributed to different areas.

Your link attributes it to Mysia, Pergamon, c. 133-27 BC. Æ

This other link https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=SNG+BnF+1859&category=1-2&lot=&date_from=&date_to=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1¤cy=usd&order=0, which has an image of the same coin, assigns it to Seleukis and Pieria, Antioch.

Both coins have the same SNG BnF 1859 classification, with the latter adding the term (Pergamum).

Another difference is the assignment of the period, with one establishing it as 133-27 BC and the other as the second century.

Googling the classification, I saw several dealers attributing the same classification to one area or another.

Perhaps I'm misinterpreting that information; however, at this point, I wouldn't know which area to attribute it to.

Can you help me understand this difference and give me the best zone attribution?

Thank you very much

Muchas gracias tatinos

Esa moneda es tal cual la mía, sin embargo, continúe investigando en base a la catalogación que tiene esa moneda y encontré varias más con la misma catalogación y atribuido a distintas zonas.

Tu link lo atribuye a Mysia, Pergamon, c. 133-27 BC. Æ

Este otro link https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=SNG+BnF+1859&category=1-2&lot=&date_from=&date_to=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1¤cy=usd&order=0, que tiene una imagen de la misma moneda, lo asigna a Seleukis and Pieria, Antioch.

Ambas monedas tienen la misma catalogación SNG BnF 1859, en esta úlima le agrega el término (Pergamum).

Otra diferencia que hay es la asignación del periodo donde uno lo establece en el 133-27 AC. y el otro lo establece en el segundo siglo.

Buscando en Google por la catalogación, ví varias casa de venta que atribuyen a una u otra zona con la misma catalogación.

Quizás estoy interpretando mal esa información, sin embargo, en este momento no sabría a qué zona atribuirla.

Podrán ayudarme a entender esa diferencia y darle la mejor atribución de zona?

Muchas gracias 

Alejandro 

Giobruno

Don't need to look anymore, tatinos nailed it on his search.

 

But, while his link leads to a perfect match, it represents a coin that is not yet on our database and needs to be added here.

Good morning, Giobruno.

I agree with you that the link you sent "tannins" matches my coin and could be added to the Numista catalog. However, before doing so, I'd like to first clarify the attribution issue I mentioned in my previous email. Once that's resolved, I'll be happy to include it in the catalog.

Regards

Buen día Giobruno.

Estoy de acuerdo contigo que el link que pasó “taninos” coincide con mi moneda y se podría agregar al catálogo de Numista, sin embargo, antes de hacerlo, quisiera aclarar primero el tema de la atribución que mencioné en mi correo anterior. Una vez resuelto, la incluiré con mucho gusto en el catálogo.

Saludos 

Alejandro