50c 1944/S MULE ERROR ( for confirmation) [opgelost]

Hello everyone. If i may i would like to request from anyone of you to kindly check, verify and confirm if what i have belongs to the “ MULE ERROR “ variety.

i clearly see a gap between the S and the mountain. But i prefer to hear from the experts. I took some snapshots  for ready reference. Hope i got real one.

thanking you all in advance.

 I am sure it has been mentioned - to any member - that when asking about a coin page you 

have already looked at on here, it is surely common courtesy to then include that link in your 

message - rather than make members trying to help having to look for the link themselves. 

N#15858 

 Which does not mention a ‘mule’ error; but … 

https://www.phil-philately.com/uncategorized/1944-philippine-50-centavos-mule-coin/ 

does mention it, and Numista as well. It is a 1944 50c Mule (using the 1907-1921 Obverse). 

 Not sure how much of all that [fine detail] helps on a worn coin. 

Will see what other members think. 

 So, for a worn - or any - coin, the details to look for 

  Type 1 - mule 
More details in the hair. 
The smoke is more detailed. 

The mountain has vertical markings - 

  and - is straight [missing a bump] on the right side of the mountain. 

 Not sure about letter S position. 

Looks like the normal (Type 2) coin, due to the bump on the 

right side of the mountain, near the border. It is not straight. 

[Edit - will add markings on a new picture below] 

My apology for not choosing the right link. Its because i have this experience  where i selected an AI sources. Were i was advice not to rely on them. 
so i choose the only available on NUMISTA catalog.

i just wish those comments would somehow render my new found coin closer to that ( mule ) variety.

again, my apology and appreciation too.

 About to add this picture I made when I saw your reply when making it. Thanks 

 So the green straight line is the mule, the orange bump line is normal. 

Can not tell - the hair, the smoke - either not there or too worn. 

Still unsure where the S letter should be for the mule. Looks close either way. 

Its getting clearer to me now…that graphic illustration has helped a lot. I felt sad but it is still okey . I always  said that what matters the most  is knowing what i have. genuine identification . 

i’ll respect  and accept whatever comes next.

lastly, please accept again my apology and My thanks.

a nice day ahead to you all!
 

 Thanks - I amended our page to reflect all the extra information. 

Will look around to find a mule coin picture, other that shown on the other link - 

to show the straight side, and the lettering space. 

that was so kind and such a  nice idea my good Sir. Many among us will surely benefit from those additional and much detailed informations

thanking you again my good Sir.

 Not sure how helpful this is > 

That nice. Im sure every inch of additional details would be usefull. Someone can clearly distinguish the differences on a comparative photo.

thank you again my good Sir.

S position -

KM#171  - 1908   Away from Mountain               KM#183 - 1944S Touching Mountain

OP's Example                                                         1944S MULE

Easy to spot regardless of wear. If Your coin was a mule, the S would  not be touching the mountain.

Thanks for the illustrations my good Sir.

You are welcome. Rechecking my examples now to see if I have this mule.

Edit -  Double checked, I do not have this Mule as well.

Please tell, which two types created the mule?

N#15858 reverse

N#4350 obverse

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic163840.html#p1264844 

 The dies for the 1907-1921 obverse were used in 1944, 

with the reverse being unaffected. 

 While making my reply I see another made 1 minute earlier. 

Yes because the N#4350 obverse link was never identified and not even listed on the 1944 page.

All the information needed was already provided on this thread if one took the time to read it.

 https://www.phil-philately.com/uncategorized/1944-philippine-50-centavos-mule-coin/

“exactly as they were on the 1907-1921 dies”

But not for someone wanting to know the Numista links to the coins involved and even more important, adding this post to the coin page for future reference.

 I added that earlier [1907-1921] link in the comments on the newer page. Thanks