Danish Notgeld

Hello masters, 

Those coins should be moved to Danish Notgeld ( https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=danish_notgeld_section )

N#37054

N#43527

N#56609

N#40844

N#18275

N#42887

As already have the portuguese notgeld, chinese notgeld, albanese notgeld, etc..

@apuking, @Jamtrup... can you contribute something here? =)

Danish notgeld is a section but not an issuer to be selected just as Denmark.

Town of Haderslev is a selectable issuer for example but that is no help in this case.

apuking

Danish notgeld is a section but not an issuer to be selected just as Denmark.

 

Town of Haderslev is a selectable issuer for example but that is no help in this case.

Thank you for your response

As you understand these coins better, would you say they are notgeld or not?

Kind of yes, they were struck as emergency token coinage after the state bankrupcy in 1813

I am in no way an expert in Danish coinage, especially when it comes to older ones. What I can tell is the those coins/tokens in question was issued by the Danish state (Having the crown and coat of arms on it, after all). And if I remember my history correct (I don't have any books by my side right now), these coins were a form of emergency coinage, so make up for the lack of silver coinage.

But for instance the coins 6 Skilling says so on the page:

These are government bonds issued after the 1813 bankrupt. Although these tokens shows a value do not claim to contain the net asset value indicated by the nominal value. Even if it is a sign of payment and not a coin in real terms, these government tokens are included in the current coins catalogues alongside real coins.

That's what I remember for now, with my current sources around.

Hope it helps, otherwise I can try ask (if i remember), my local coin shop, next time I get by?

They are bank tokens. “Notgeld” is a German term that should only be used for German issues (and then not nearly as widely as it currently is). The real question is whether these should be listed alongside other Danish coins or hidden away in a separate section. As it stands, they are already listed as “Emergency coinage › Official necessity coins” which seems to perfectly sum up their status. The comments in the pages imply they were not “real coins”. This is misleading, as it assumes that all coins must contain their face value in metal. Whilst this was common practice when these bank tokens were issued, all modern coins are, by this definition, tokens, so to apply such a narrow definition of the term “coin” would cause all manner of trouble. I would propose the following comment be put on all the pages:

These rigsbank tokens were issued after the government bankruptcy of 1813, which prevented the issuance of low-denomination silver coins.

We can also add the year they were demonetized, 1818 for the 12 skilling, 1839 for the 16 skilling and 1843 for the other denominations. That will help dispell any suggestion that these were short lived pieces. They were, in fact, a mainstay of the circulating currency for decades.