These coins, which are over a millennium old, are copied extensively. The simplest approach is to consider it a copy, unless you bought it from a reputable dealer who is familiar with this type of coinage—two qualities rarely found together for this kind of coinage :)
These coins, which are over a millennium old, are copied extensively. The simplest approach is to consider it a copy, unless you bought it from a reputable dealer who is familiar with this type of coinage—two qualities rarely found together for this kind of coinage :)
There is nothing that immediately indicates this wuzhu is a modern fake, it looks perfectly fine. Wuzhu from the Western Han are incredibly common, it would be ridiculous to assume all are "fake until proven innocent".
@Murilo GZThis is a wuzhu from the Western Han Dynasty of ancient China. Appears to be Hartill#8.9, though there are many sub-varieties of Han wuzhu that aren’t extensively covered in Hartill.
There is nothing that immediately indicates this wuzhu is a modern fake, it looks perfectly fine …
That's the problem, there are so many sub-varieties that nobody knows the exact one, so if it looks fine, it's genuine :)
It is genuine. These coins having sub-varieties has nothing to do with one's ability to identify them as genuine. Calling every Chinese cash coin fake just because you aren’t able to ID them as authentic or counterfeit isn’t necessarily helpful…
Status gewijzigd naar Opgelost(Murilo GZ, 10-mar-2026, 00:05)
These coins, which are over a millennium old, are copied extensively. The simplest approach is to consider it a copy, unless you bought it from a reputable dealer who is familiar with this type of coinage—two qualities rarely found together for this kind of coinage :)
There is nothing that immediately indicates this wuzhu is a modern fake, it looks perfectly fine. Wuzhu from the Western Han are incredibly common, it would be ridiculous to assume all are "fake until proven innocent".
@Murilo GZThis is a wuzhu from the Western Han Dynasty of ancient China. Appears to be Hartill#8.9, though there are many sub-varieties of Han wuzhu that aren’t extensively covered in Hartill.
How do I find this Hartill#8.9?
Sorry, but I don't know.
Status gewijzigd naar Geopend(Murilo GZ, 10-mar-2026, 00:10)
These coins, which are over a millennium old, are copied extensively. The simplest approach is to consider it a copy, unless you bought it from a reputable dealer who is familiar with this type of coinage—two qualities rarely found together for this kind of coinage :)
There is nothing that immediately indicates this wuzhu is a modern fake, it looks perfectly fine. Wuzhu from the Western Han are incredibly common, it would be ridiculous to assume all are "fake until proven innocent".
@Murilo GZThis is a wuzhu from the Western Han Dynasty of ancient China. Appears to be Hartill#8.9, though there are many sub-varieties of Han wuzhu that aren’t extensively covered in Hartill.
How do I find this Hartill#8.9?
Sorry, but I don't know.
Hartill#8.9 refers to David Hartill's “Cast Chinese Coins, 2nd Edition”. Its the best text for beginners to Chinese cash. Not entirely comprehensive of small variations, but covers the most important Chinese coins from the Shang to the Qing.
It is genuine. These coins having sub-varieties has nothing to do with one's ability to identify them as genuine. Calling every Chinese cash coin fake just because you aren’t able to ID them as authentic or counterfeit isn’t necessarily helpful…
Repeating the same arguments over and over won't necessarily make you right. You claim it's an authentic coin without asking about its precise weight or whether it's magnetic.
Murilo GZ
How do I find this Hartill#8.9?
The Hartill book will not give you more information.
