Is this an official set? (Spain 1980)

Dear Collectors!

Is this an official set? If yes is this a BU or a proof set?

Thank you for your help!

Any opinions?

SCWC does not list it.

All the years match and it has the star pattern on the wallet card, it looks original

What's written on the page under the coins, any official stuff?

Idolenz

What's written on the page under the coins, any official stuff?

These pictures are from the internet, and unfortunately they only had these pictures. But I think it says: 

(Coleccion d)e mon(edas)

(…)las

80

Jua(n Carlos) Rey d(e Espana)

I wrote what is not visible in brackets.

At least that would be logical.

I have no idea what that (…)las could be

KennyG

All the years match and it has the star pattern on the wallet card, it looks original

Yes, that's what I am thinking as well. The problem with the 1980 sets is that there are lots of variations. 

Here are two examples from Numista, so I assume these are official:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/set.php?id=5396

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/set.php?id=3263 (this definitely should be official because some time ago I asked referee about it)

but I have seen even more variations, so probably some are not official.

Which is why I wanted to confirm here

I found this set:

rsirian1

I found this set:

Another great example. It was issued by Exterior Bank of Spain

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banco_Exterior_de_Espa%C3%B1a

According to wikipedia, it wasn't nationalized (state was the biggest shareholder though), but it was created by royal decree, and it seems that it acted similarly to banks for foreign trade in many socialist countries. So here I'd say it is official

Found few more variations of this seton the internet. Some pictures came from Taobao, so they have chinese characters as watermarks.

(Taobao surprisingly has a huge coin section with lots of stores, from simple collectors to large dealers)

1:

Red (1)

2, 3:

Brown (1), Dark Green

The white is added to numista

4, 5, 6:

Light Green (probably 1980?, they didn't have pictures of inside), Dark Red, Blue (2)

The blue set on the left is in Numista and I call it here Blue (1).

7. 

Brown (2)

8.

Red (2)

9.

Green

10.

White (2)

11.

Blue (3)

12.

In plastic case (most likely unofficial)

13.

In soft plastic (most likely unofficial)

I am.starting to think that at least some, if not all of them are unofficial

But what is more important, I found this set:

This set must be official, because it has name of the mint on the cover, the cover is of the same format as the earlier sets (Franco sets and 1975-1979, which are definitely official), and coins here actually resemble proof coins. Because in most previous sets they looked like business strikes

I just found this website:

https://coleccionismodemonedas.com/moneda-100-pesetas-1980-valor/

They claim that there was only one official set. (The one pictures of which I uploaded in my previous post)

All other sets are unofficial. That would explain why so many different sets exist.

If this information is correct (which is rather likely), I suppose those sets currently added to Numista should be deleted

@oynbcn what do you think? 

Or maybe there are other sources that claim all these sets to be original?

I'm away from home for a few days. I'll check it as soon as I get back, but it's true that many unofficial sets were released. I think I have the official FNMT set in my collection, so I'll try to reply when I get there. 

Poke @zegeri , maybe he can reply sooner.

Bump

The case of Spanish coin sets ("carteras o carteritas") before the introduction of the Euro is quite complex, as many were issued, as you have explained in this topic, by many different organizations. In fact, in serious numismatic shops in Spain, any of them are sold interchangeably. 

The most officially recognized set seems to be the one bearing the mint mark of the National Mint (FNMT), the crowned M, but I know that many collectors, even of Spanish coins, possess other, supposedly unofficial, sets, since the internal format is very similar in all of them.

I'm sorry I can't contribute much more than what's already been said. Perhaps another referee from Spain can offer additional information. 

Maybe the question now is which sets should be included in Numista, considering there's no official guideliness on the matter and it would be a shame if users who own some of these sets—which aren't the typical tourist sets—were unable to add them to their Numista collection.

My biggest concern is regarding the fact that the official set is supposed to contain proof coins, while the unoffcial ones logically should contain general uncirculated coins.

Therefore listing the unofficial sets (specially with proof coins) would be incorrect and misleading.

I was checking some Spanish shops, and from those it also seems that only the one with mint logo is official. For example in both of these stores they only list that set as official:

https://www.numismaticacarlosperez.com/categoria-producto/numismatica/juan-carlos-i-monedas-en-pesetas/carteras-oficiales-f-n-m-t/

https://finumas.es/301-juan-carlos-i-sets-oficiales

Maybe we can do this: list one set (with mint logo), and in the comments write that many likely unofficial sets exist? 

This would still allow people to add them, but it would be slightly less misleading, as the possibility of being unofficial is mentioned?

Of course we should wait for @zegerireply first

An another example where a similar logic works:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/set.php?id=5982

These sets were issued between 1971-1989, and every year there were multiple colors. And besides the official ones, one “unofficial” set was also issued every year. So not to make too many different sets, I just added one by year, and mentioned the varieties (including unofficial one) in the comments.

That case was much simpler though, because all coins were simple business strikes

The answer to your original question is no.

We lack guidelines about sets; we only know Xavier's intentions when he released this feature.

"We define sets as official packaging from the mint containing one or several numismatic items. It contains only new items (not repackaging of older coins).
We just don't allow sets that were made by a different person or company than the mint or the issuing entity. Sets made by a third party from coins in circulation are not allowed." (Xavier)