Help to ID 2 coins

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Can anyone ID these coins
They both are approx. 20mm in diameter. The copper one is 3mm thick and the silver is 1mm
Thanks
Torben

There are several ways to skin a cat... but only one for the cat..
First is Byzantine
Second is from Riga, Eric of Sweden.
L'ANRD : http://www.facebook.com/anrdgrenoble  -  http://a.n.r.d.free.fr/
Thanks for the information Monéphil,...
 you can help with some links?
Best Torben
There are several ways to skin a cat... but only one for the cat..
Sorry, for the second it's not riga and not eric. :(

It's German : http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-schleswig-holstein-gottorp-1-16-thaler-km-69-(1)625-16z3-cuid-167343-duid-380051
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1624-Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp-1-16-Thaler-Coin-Frederick-III-KN192-/121238992074?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c3a6834ca&_uhb=1
L'ANRD : http://www.facebook.com/anrdgrenoble  -  http://a.n.r.d.free.fr/
Citeer: monéphilSorry, for the second it's not riga and not eric. :(

It's German : http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-schleswig-holstein-gottorp-1-16-thaler-km-69-(1)625-16z3-cuid-167343-duid-380051
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1624-Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp-1-16-Thaler-Coin-Frederick-III-KN192-/121238992074?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c3a6834ca&_uhb=1

Thanks  :)
There are several ways to skin a cat... but only one for the cat..
First looks like this one : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55581.html
L'ANRD : http://www.facebook.com/anrdgrenoble  -  http://a.n.r.d.free.fr/
http://www.cgb.fr/heraclius-demi-follis,bby_278381,a.html
L'ANRD : http://www.facebook.com/anrdgrenoble  -  http://a.n.r.d.free.fr/
Citeer: monéphilhttp://www.cgb.fr/heraclius-demi-follis,bby_278381,a.html

WOW... you are good...
Thanks
Torben
There are several ways to skin a cat... but only one for the cat..

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