Coin identification (Hungary? German States?)

Hello,

Can anyone help me identifying these two coins?

Thanks in advance!!

Hello

I think the first one (large coin) is from the Austrian Netherlands.
Take a look in the catalogue here on numista.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces28161.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces46379.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24892.html

Regards,
Kenneth

The one on the right is a Salzburg Zweier 1560-1586. :)

Many thanks Kenneth B and Whatacoin!! I had no idea both were from Austrian Netherlands/States.

First one I got some doubt with the amount of stripes but it is now solved :-) Just the date is not readable, but that´s enough for me. 1 Escalin 15 1751-1768 Maria Theresia 1767?
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24892.html

Regarding the second one - Salzburg Zweier 1560-1586 - that was a great help!
But it seems that the down-right shield is more similar to the coin from 1540-1554 (Probszt 385, Davenport 418.)
http://www.ma-shops.de/knopik/item.php5?id=100923031&lang=de&curr=EUR
(not yet on Numista I think..)


Again, to both, thank you!