1 New Shekel, Israel - Confusing date

Hi, I have just begun to catalogue a collection of Israeli coins given to me by family in Israel. The collector was a well known Stamp collector who happened to have some coins.
I have catalogued most of them on site now but have been stumped by a 1 New Shekel coin that has an unidentified date on it.
The characters are:- חתשמ״ו
the nearest I can get is:- התשמ״ו which is 1986

At first I thought that I had mistaken the Chet for the Hay but I have looked at the coin under a magnifier and it is clearly a solid Chet. I have other 1 New Shekel coins and they clearly have a Hay at the start of the date.

Has anyone seen this date configuration before? If so what is it? If not what can I do to confirm it or find out more about the coin?

Any help would be appreciated

Try here:
https://en.numista.com/numisdoc/calendar-hebrew-35.html
It is indeed very strange. I searched my coins, but can not find a similar

So little difference between 8 and 5 ...

Citeer: PetrusAscanusTry here:
https://en.numista.com/numisdoc/calendar-hebrew-35.html
It is indeed very strange. I searched my coins, but can not find a similar

Yes, It doesn't follow the dating pattern so I think it is either a counterfeit coin or a stamping error but I don't know where to go to research this. I'll keep trying. Thanks for the reply

Can we see a picture?

Citeer: bam777Can we see a picture?

Yes, as soon as I can get a close up of it for you, my camera isn't up to it. So I'll post you an image in the next few days. Regards

Hi bam777, I have attached a couple of images for you (and any other interested collector) I think it clearly shows the 'chet' as the first letter of the date. I cannot find any reference to such a date, or error.     

Hi Negev,

here are the images of my coin, which hasn't the error (unfortunately). I have never seen one like yours in any trade list, so far!




Ole

It may be a filled die.

Citeer: SjoelundHi Negev,

here are the images of my coin, which hasn't the error (unfortunately). I have never seen one like yours in any trade list, so far!




Ole

Thanks for the response. It is strange, I got a response from zegeri who thought it could be a filled die. I looked at the shape of the 'hay'  and it is a slightly different shape and there is no evidence of a mis-shape or break it seems like a clean chet shape. I'll keep searching, if you see anything that might help I'd be grateful for a message. regards

Hi,

I've had a look at my doubles, but they are "normal" as well!

A long time ago I found this "heh" on a 10 agorot coin:

but of course, that's the opposite of yours

Ole

Citeer: SjoelundHi,

I've had a look at my doubles, but they are "normal" as well!

A long time ago I found this "heh" on a 10 agorot coin:

but of course, that's the opposite of yours

Ole

That is really interesting, is there any research as to what percentage of coins have this 'open' configuration.
I think if my coin was just a 'full die' error there would still be a small gap or mark where they were joined. There isn't. Also if you look at the 'hay' the top vertical line is just longer than where the 'short leg' would join if it was a filled die. However on my coin the 'chet' seems to be contiguous and one solid letter rather than joined and the top vertical line is not extended.
Many thanks for your interest, keep searching! :)
regards

Hi,

the 1997 variant I found amongst my doubles, but I think it was a Dutch collector, who told me about it and that started my search.... I don't think it's really unusual, but certainly less common than the "normal" one

Here is another 10 agorot variant (mentioned in the SCWC):



but that's a completely different die used for that year! The 1991 was minted in Jerusalem, Santiago and Stuttgart, but in the SCWC the variant is only said to be valid for the Jerusalem mint, but who knows if SCWC is correct in this?

Ole

Ole

Hi Negev,

if you want me to document your variant please send high me resolution images of both sides of your coin? I'll now ask my variant friends if they have any like your coin.

Ole

Citeer: SjoelundHi Negev,

if you want me to document your variant please send high me resolution images of both sides of your coin? I'll now ask my variant friends if they have any like your coin.

Ole

Hi Ole, I've already posted images of each side of the coin in this thread above. They are approx 1mb. I can try to get a higher resolution but the max I can post here is 2mb anyway. Let me know if the images above are adequate.
Thanks

Hi Negev,

I'll try to see how it comes out and I'll pm you with the result, OK?
Ole

Citeer: SjoelundHi Negev,

I'll try to see how it comes out and I'll pm you with the result, OK?
Ole

Cheers  

looks like 1985, I cannot say for sure 100% but this is the only one I have found with no visible gap and matching Hebrew writing, other months do not match using Gregorian to Hebrew. (what I used to identify the date mark)

The new sheqel was made from September 1985 to replace the old sheqel, all of the 1985 coins seem more like the images you provided where the first symbol has a closed/imperfect gap, although "officially" the coin was not released until 1st January 1986, there were many struck in 1985 possibly to perfect the design?

all coins 1986 to date have a clear gap that I have found.

The link below is where I got the image

http://www.wcc.co.il/ASIA/Israel/New%20shekel/New%20sheqel.html




you will have to judge for yourself.

Citeer: SjoelundHi Negev,

if you want me to document your variant please send high me resolution images of both sides of your coin? I'll now ask my variant friends if they have any like your coin.

Ole

Hi Ole, I've already posted images of each side of the coin in this thread above. They are approx 1mb. I can try to get a higher resolution but the max I can post here is 2mb anyway. Let me know if the images above are adequate.
Thanks