Yes that one is mine. I do think it is not a weak strike, But a die issue, over cleaned. The cleaning took out some of the details. I pulled 5 of the 18 of these coins I have, all in XF. Found 3; 4 straws and 2; 3 straws
Hear are two more 4 straws , One with a die crack
and 2 more with 3 straws
To me it like the US 1/2 dollar 1972 , I think With FG and without FG.
Also the Clump of grass right of the legs are thick and thin
But like I have said, a variety from the mint over cleaning the die.
To me it is fine , but do what most people want to do
yours daryl
aks allred 1850
edit on the last two images the 3 straw from leg straight straw and 1 not straight . Not sure how a weak strike could straighten
Iam not sure. But is this one of those coins they make in different years , But do not change the date? But let the people vote on this, I have the commit box and can put in what I want.
Yes, it is light sanding of the die together with the clogging.
There was normal die with thick details.
Then during production the die was restored by "Light sanding" to prolong its existence. As the result the details became thinner. The thinness of details and increasing of the size of the field between images is an excellent sign of the process.
Indeed, the right 3 thin straws repeat the same configuration of the thick ones exactly apart of been thinner and lost the lower part - they don't look curved anymore. You may immediately predict that other details are thinner on this coin as well and check it: indeed the central straws became thinner and one of them even lost (result of clogging) .
Can anyone name these differences a variety?
Obviously not. There is no criteria by which it is possible to distinguish the coins.
Check the form of thin 3 straws on the images:
they are large and slightly curved at the lower part on the image of the first post
they are not curved at the right image of the second post
they are shorter on the left image of the second post.
So what do we have? 3 differences. But they are just the permanent degradation of the die. Where one must say, it is group 1, it is group 2 and it is group 3? Yes, exactly - nowhere. There are many coins in between.
Difference 3 straws is the result of clogging of 4 straws.
Different thickness is a common process of the 'light sanding' as well as clogging together.
The 1937 D 3-Legged Buffalo nickel is definitely a coin variety
Excessive die polishing is believed as the reason too much metal was removed causing the buffalo's leg to vanish. Before the mint realized the error a few thousand had been released into circulation.
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Interesting reading Iam sitting this one out. It should be decided by vote on what in the catalog in these areas.
edit I would rather see this in the commit area than in the coin year lines. So people can see there are some issues. But don't have to figure it out themselves if they don't want to,but can easily add there coin .
Exactly. As edduns in the post Posted: 25-Sep-2016, 05:21AM already mentioned, this is a result of technological processes. That is why there is no place for it in varieties. By mistake during the discussion, making the correct statement, a well known the USA coin was chosen inadequately. The USA coin was created abruptly, there is no row of coins between 4 and 3 legs. For example a similar issue with a ukranian 15 kopecs with 3 and 4 berries was solved, when a team presented a row of about 20 coins, which shows the reduction and disappearance of the forth berry from coin to coin. Practically the same situation is observed in our case.
As for a statement about the changes of the images of coins during mintage Posted: 25-Sep-2016, 03:29AM it is obvious that every next coin looks worth then the previous. It is technological difference. And it is obvious that it brings to no new variety: otherwise you oblige to keep in one collection the whole mintage: there are no same coins in the world.
As for the definition of the variety Posted: 11-Sep-2016, 06:05PM, there is one already: http://eucoins.byethost24.com/var.html
and it shows that the standard procedure of dies polishing does not create varieties. This process brings to row of coins different by any chosen in advance feature slowly slowly from coin to coin (see section 'Dies' in the link above and the earlier discussion).
To summarize: yes, the difference presented is not a variety and the images in the article are to be deleted. But still there is always chance to make a discovery in numismatics.
