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2.1 g. 17.9
Could Persian ?

Best Regards
Rick
it feels like you should rotate both pictures 180 °
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Yes, rotate 180º. The name on the middle line of the first picture is Muhammad ─ either the prophet or a sultan or a caliph...
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2.1 gr. 17.9 mm
Best Regards
Rick
Rotated

Rotated
The Muhammad in the first photo is the Prophet: La ilah illa Allah / Muhammad / rassul Allah ("There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is the apostle of Allah"). The ruler's name, if present, is on the other side: al-sultan al-a'zam / ... / ... khallad mulkahu ("the sultan the greatest" / ... / ... "may his kingdom be preserved"). I can't make out the middle line. A sharper photo may help.
Good work, dltcoins.

I can't read the middle line either, nor the beginning of the third line, which still needs to be read. I agree that a sharper picture may help.
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I will try to post a clearer coin.
Maybe Maldives coin?
Sultan Al Auzam was the founder of the
Utheemu Dynasty 1587 Maldives

Best Regards
Rick



hopefully better picture
Citeer: "Rdolce"​I will try to post a clearer coin.
​Maybe Maldives coin?
​Sultan Al Auzam was the founder of the
​Utheemu Dynasty 1587 Maldives

​Best Regards
​Rick
Many, many rulers have styled themselves al-sultan al-a'zam. That title isn't very helpful to narrow things down. You were on the right track in the beginning, I think. Generally "Persian", Mongol period or a bit later. The new images are clearer but I just can't make sense of the middle line. Ilkhans? Timurids? Some minor Anatolian dynasty?
Thanks for your help
Citeer: "Camerinvs"​Good work, dltcoins.

​I can't read the middle line either, nor the beginning of the third line, which still needs to be read. I agree that a sharper picture may help.

​I think the third line begins with khan (or ilkhan?). Thus, the ruler is al-sultan al-a'zam somebody-or-other (il)khan. Doesn't narrow the field by much, unfortunately.
try to post the pictures on Zeno, or send them to the postmaster.
https://www.zeno.ru
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
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Thanks
Rick
You can still register at zeno. Send a request with the user name you want to use to the site owner charm@postman.ru. It's only "self registration" that is closed.
The word outside the square, at bottom, is Uthman, the name of the third calipha. Likely around the square are the name of the four first caliphas. I have seen this design in Umayyad coins.
Referee for Spain, Iberia (ancient), Suebi Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom
Thanks. This coin is not listed in numista catalogue.
I will look in Ummayad coins
Umayyad coins do not bear the title al-sultan al-a'zam. I think we can safely place the coin in the 13th-15th centuries. I lean toward an Anatolian issue loosely imitating an Ilkhan prototype, perhaps Uljaytu. Your coin's weight of 2.1g closely matches Uljaytu's dirham standard of 2.16gm and bears some stylistic affinity to his type A design.
It would be a Mongolian coin then.
The Ilkhanate Dynasty
was founded by Heulga Khan
The ruler uljaytu
Was 1304 to 1316.
Only coin Sultan in it.
Oyjaytul Sultan
Thanks
did you get that info from Zeno?
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
definitely Ilkhanid coin.
Not yet
I agree with the type of Ilkhanid coin


It is very similar to the Uhejytu Dirham type A (703-716 AH)
I am inclined to this coin, it is the only catalog with the same features

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1677495
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1677496
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1677497
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1833062
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1833063
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1833064
I added this type of coin to the catalog

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces113766.html
Thanks for all your hel.p..

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