1 Giulio - Gregorio XIII (Ugo Boncompagni) (Papal State - Italian States) [opgelost]

Can you help me identify this coin? It is very worn but you see a papal tiara and the keys of San Pedro.
Weight 1,82 gr
Diameter 24 mm

I bet "S.PETRVS" "ROMA" on reverse.
"PONT.MAX" on obverse
Perhaps a "giulio"
There is two exemples close to your coin - Clement VII and Clement VIII

Citeer: "Frenchlover"​I bet "S.PETRVS" "ROMA" on reverse.
​"PONT.MAX" on obverse
​Perhaps a "giulio"
​There is one exemple close to your coin
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From the weight, more probably a Grosso.​ And yet, the design mostly appears on giulii, soil is possible that if you look at the edge you may find it is a clipped, and so low weight giulio.

On the obverse under the shield seems to be a dragon. The shield of Cardinal Pietro Aldobrandini?

Loop of keys are similar to coins of "Sixtvs V"
keywords
"SIXTVS V" "S.PETRVS" "ROM" Giulio "PONT.MAX"

Citeer: "Frenchlover"​Loop of keys are similar to coins of "Sixtvs V"
​keywords
​"SIXTVS V" "S.PETRVS" "ROM" Giulio "PONT.MAX"
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​Very similar obverse, and similar reverse as well. but still not a match! i'm going to go look through the CNI for Sixtus V now...

It looks like but you have to look for a Pope whose shield is a dragon. This is that you put is a lion.

Citeer: "loruca"​

Citeer: "Frenchlover"​Loop of keys are similar to coins of "Sixtvs V"
​​keywords
​​"SIXTVS V" "S.PETRVS" "ROM" Giulio "PONT.MAX"
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​​Very similar obverse, and similar reverse as well. but still not a match! i'm going to go look through the CNI for Sixtus V now...

​Can you check Paulo V? It's the only one I've seen that has a Dragon in the shield

Citeer: "coinsmcr"​

Citeer: "loruca"​
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Citeer: "Frenchlover"​Loop of keys are similar to coins of "Sixtvs V"
​​​keywords
​​​"SIXTVS V" "S.PETRVS" "ROM" Giulio "PONT.MAX"
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​​​Very similar obverse, and similar reverse as well. but still not a match! i'm going to go look through the CNI for Sixtus V now...

​​Can you check Paulo V? It's the only one I've seen that has a Dragon in the shield

I went through every coin of Paulo V. The only similar coins with a saint peter reverse were half grossi..​

In the catalog Krause appear several (km 25,26,27,39,40,60) lamentable without photo. The only one that presents photo presents a dragon in the shield (km 27)

Hello, your coin is:

1 Giulio - Gregorio XIII (Ugo Boncompagni) (Papal State - Italian States)

Years: 1572-1585
Metal: Silver
Obv: Coat of arms overlaid by crossed keys.
Obv. lettering: GREGORI VS XIII P M
Rev: St. Petrus and St. Paulus.
Rev. lettering: S PETRVS S PAVLVS; ROMA in exergue.

Reference: CNI XVI 525-538.

Similar one: https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=2693&category=56718&lot=2268217

Nicola

Thanks Nicola, great.

Citeer: "=coinsmcr"​Thanks Nicola, great.

​The reverse design is correct, yes, But the obverse is different, if you take the time to look, the legend is different, it ends in an "M" instead of a "VI" also, such things as the key handles are different along with the tiara...i'm not quite sure this is resolved yet! But @Nicola Has gotten us as far as we have been (note though that your CNI reference is for Urbino VII)! Time to go look under Gregorio in the CNI! Also note! The coin is VERY light for a giulio. it is far closer to a Grosso (this being said i'll guess that the coin was clipped and that it is one of the following giuliano from year III).

@coinsmcr You're welcome! :)

@loruca The link I posted show a similar coin, not the same one. There are a lot of varieties of 1 Giulio for Gregorio XIII.
Check yourself: CNI vol. XVI pg 66-67 (the legend ends in an "M") as I wrote before.

Nicola

Citeer: "Nicola"​@coinsmcr You're welcome! :)
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​@loruca The link I posted show a similar coin, not the same one. There are a lot of varieties of 1 Giulio for Gregorio XIII.
​Check yourself: CNI vol. XVI pg 66-67 (the legend ends in an "M") as I said before.
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​Nicola

​@Nicola , You're right and i'm blind!
Loruca