Help with coins' identification need (2) [opgelost]

Dear All,

I would greatly appreciate any help with two more coins/tokens.



This coin is 19.5 mm in diameter. On one side there is a a text VIVIT DRVS. On the other side there is some shield/coat of arms.



This coin is 19 mm in diameter. On one side the text is CIV. *VTPHA NIA, the other side is a coat of arms.

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,
Chaosharvard

Firstly I think you have reverse images in wrong places.

Your images 1 and 4

Then first coin is Italian and reads VIVIT DEVS ~ Vivit Deus ~ God is alive
and is a Quattrino which are 20mm. Image is of Saint Michael fighting Lucifer,
with ROMA below in exergue, and is a coin of Urbano VIII. Issued 1636 and 1637.
Lettering: VRBANVS VIII P MAX
Catalogues: Munt. 192 , Berm. 1771 maybe.

Your images 3 and 2

The second coin may be from a Dutch Republic as a crowned shield on one side,
and CIV. lettering (CIVITAS) on the other. A denomination 1 Duit is around 20mm diameter.
Here are a couple that show similar styles (but not same lettering) ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55057.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24734.html
with three lines of lettering in a four-section quatrefoil shape.

Second one is from the city Zutphen:
http://www.hanzesteden.info/nl/zutphen/
http://www.muntprijzen.nl/index.php?id=2&p_ID=5&provincie=29
this one:
http://www.muntprijzen.nl/popups/prijsinfo.php?product_ID=3936

Citeer: "ZacUK"​ Firstly I think you have reverse images in wrong places.
​
​Your images 1 and 4
​
​ Then first coin is Italian and reads VIVIT DEVS ~ Vivit Deus ~ God is alive
​and is a Quattrino which are 20mm. Image is of Saint Michael fighting Lucifer,
​with ROMA below in exergue, and is a coin of Urbano VIII. Issued 1636 and 1637.
​Lettering: VRBANVS VIII P MAX
​ Catalogues: Munt. 192 , Berm. 1771 maybe.
​
​Your images 3 and 2
​
​ The second coin may be from a Dutch Republic as a crowned shield on one side,
​and CIV. lettering (CIVITAS) on the other. A denomination 1 Duit is around 20mm diameter.
​ Here are a couple that show similar styles (but not same lettering) ...
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55057.html
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24734.html
​with three lines of lettering in a four-section quatrefoil shape.

​Thank so much, Zac!!

Sincerely,
Chaosharvard

Citeer: "PetrusAscanus"​Second one is from the city Zutphen:
​http://www.hanzesteden.info/nl/zutphen/
​http://www.muntprijzen.nl/index.php?id=2&p_ID=5&provincie=29
​this one:
​http://www.muntprijzen.nl/popups/prijsinfo.php?product_ID=3936

​Thank you, Petrus!