Help recognize two Asian coins [opgelost]

Hello
Please one can not find and the second copper is over my experience
Are purchased in an Asian set
1)
21 mm Ni-Cu or just Ni

2)
18 mm Cu



Thank you in advance

Ivan

Just to let you searching a little bit
20 1327 (Year 6)

The second coin is not that simple
The first imediate idea is a Stater from the Chola empire, but it doesn't fit

Citeer: "Frenchlover"​Just to let you searching a little bit
​20 1327 (Year 6)
​
​The second coin is not that simple
​The first imediate idea is a Stater from the Chola empire, but it doesn't fit

​Thanks for the first one
The second copper will be complicated

Ivan

The second coin is an Ottoman mangyr of Bayezit I bin Murad, 1389-1402, without mint or date, Valentine 6. The only legible portion of the inscription is bin Murad in the lower obverse but combined with other design elements, it's enough.

Citeer: "dltcoins"​The second coin is an Ottoman mangyr of Bayezit I bin Murad, 1389-1402, without mint or date, Valentine 6. The only legible portion of the inscription is bin Murad in the lower obverse but combined with other design elements, it's enough.

​Hello
Thank you Dltcoins for your exact determination

Ivan