OK, this is a good a place as any to ask. I'm a bit confused when people ask if I'm going send by registered mail. What is the difference? Does that mean I'm going to get my coins back if lost? No. Either way if it gets lost or stolen, gone is gone. So why pay the extra money for something you can't do anything about? If you insure it, that's different. Gets lost or stolen it's insured. But what does registering do? I'm in the middle of a disagreement with a swap because I didn't send it registered. And so far still haven't received my coins.
And then the problem is if I write a bad comment, I'm sure to get one too. My with only nine swaps, one bad comment means a big difference in the ratings. So it's a no win situation. I've got three more in the works and don't seem to have any problems but have in the past also. Sorry just blowing off steam. Thanks for listening/reading.
Registered mail has a tracking number with which both you and your partner can trace the package, also if lost you can have the post office start a search for the lost package using that number. Registered mail is also insured (the amount varies from country to country) so if lost the post office covers a part of the loss.
In the end it all comes down to what you and your partner agreed upon, personally I also like sending by registered more than regular.
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Citeer: "cro321"Registered mail has a tracking number with which both you and your partner can trace the package, also if lost you can have the post office start a search for the lost package using that number. Registered mail is also insured (the amount varies from country to country) so if lost the post office covers a part of the loss.
In the end it all comes down to what you and your partner agreed upon, personally I also like sending by registered more than regular.
That's the first time I heard that. When you insure a letter or package you have tell them how much to insure it for. If it's registered how would they know the amount it's worth? I may be wrong but that's the way it is in America.
For me registered mail means- trust and sure, that letter is sent at all and is sent to correct address. Because of several scams and dishonest people, you should have some tools to ensure yourself from thiefs.
Every single coin on the world should meet its collector!
In Croatia if a registered package is lost the post office pays you back 5x the postage fee, and as far as I know it's the same for the rest of the EU. Buying additional insurance is possible.
I collect and deal in ancient Roman coin. In case you're looking for affordable ancient coins or need any help with the coins you already have send me a message.
Citeer: "KasparsLV"For me registered mail means- trust and sure, that letter is sent at all and is sent to correct address. Because of several scams and dishonest people, you should have some tools to ensure yourself from thiefs.
That's all I think it is for, Trust and that it's been sent and if the other received it or not. I guess it's worth it just for a peace of mind.
Citeer: "cro321"In Croatia if a registered package is lost the post office pays you back 5x the postage fee, and as far as I know it's the same for the rest of the EU. Buying additional insurance is possible.
My wife is German and she has never heard that before. Guess it's all at your own risk no matter what you do. Even didn't received coins from eBay. Guess the only guarantee is a coin store pay and receive at the same time.
Registered mail is just like insurance on your house, car or even your holiday travel. If you lose something or it gets damaged, you can make a claim with the company in which you have taken the insurance. So, if you send coins, then it is better to insure it, just in case of a problem.
At least you get the value of the coins back, if you have insured the package for the correct amount, so under insuring is not sensible either.
I know these insurance costs from some countries are staggeringly high, so in this case, either make the exchange smaller or make the exchange viable, so insurance is a must.
Citeer: "COINMAN1"Registered mail is just like insurance on your house, car or even your holiday travel. If you lose something or it gets damaged, you can make a claim with the company in which you have taken the insurance. So, if you send coins, then it is better to insure it, just in case of a problem.
At least you get the value of the coins back, if you have insured the package for the correct amount, so under insuring is not sensible either.
I know these insurance costs from some countries are staggeringly high, so in this case, either make the exchange smaller or make the exchange viable, so insurance is a must.
There may or may not be any amount you could claim from the post office. However, as has been pointed out before, it's mostly a way to verify if someone has indeed sent it. Moreover, in countries like India or Italy, postmen are less likely to pilfer a registered package because it can be traced back to them.
That said, if you did commit to sending registered airmail and you sent by regular mail, you have to accept the error was yours. If you did not explicitly agree to it and there was some miscommunication, then that's a different story. I've had this issue once before, so in my profile, I've indicated I only send by regular mail
Citeer: "ashlobo"There may or may not be any amount you could claim from the post office. However, as has been pointed out before, it's mostly a way to verify if someone has indeed sent it. Moreover, in countries like India or Italy, postmen are less likely to pilfer a registered package because it can be traced back to them.
That said, if you did commit to sending registered airmail and you sent by regular mail, you have to accept the error was yours. If you did not explicitly agree to it and there was some miscommunication, then that's a different story. I've had this issue once before, so in my profile, I've indicated I only send by regular mail
This is actually the answer I was waiting for. What the post office said. I was wondering why other people was doing it. Just to keep honest people honest. The swap I mention, he said it was OK that I send it regular mail, now haven't heard from him from awhile and so far no coins. Can't give him a bad comment, he's got 400+ to my 9, so I'll just it as a lost and only deal with the countries within the EC. Never had a problem within the EC. And I'll have to put that in my profile too.
This is actually the answer I was waiting for. What the post office said. I was wondering why other people was doing it. Just to keep honest people honest. The swap I mention, he said it was OK that I send it regular mail, now haven't heard from him from awhile and so far no coins. Can't give him a bad comment, he's got 400+ to my 9, so I'll just it as a lost and only deal with the countries within the EC. Never had a problem within the EC. And I'll have to put that in my profile too.
If the other person is reasonable, he/she should not withhold their end using registered mail as an excuse (if it was not a criteria before the swap was agreed to). However, there is a "no grade" option which technically should not affect either of your ratings. I've not used it myself, so perhaps someone else can chime in.
Else, if this particular swap was small value-wise, I'd probably do the same thing and write it off rather than let it spiral into a bad rating (that doesn't mean I wouldn't make know to the other guy my displeasure!).
I Send by registered mail to show that I really Sent the coins and to get something from the Italian mail Company in the case the envelope is lost.
I don't care for the otherwise but in the case I do not receive anything s(he) has to Send again.
This is actually the answer I was waiting for. What the post office said. I was wondering why other people was doing it. Just to keep honest people honest. The swap I mention, he said it was OK that I send it regular mail, now haven't heard from him from awhile and so far no coins. Can't give him a bad comment, he's got 400+ to my 9, so I'll just it as a lost and only deal with the countries within the EC. Never had a problem within the EC. And I'll have to put that in my profile too.
If the other person is reasonable, he/she should not withhold their end using registered mail as an excuse (if it was not a criteria before the swap was agreed to). However, there is a "no grade" option which technically should not affect either of your ratings. I've not used it myself, so perhaps someone else can chime in.
Else, if this particular swap was small value-wise, I'd probably do the same thing and write it off rather than let it spiral into a bad rating (that doesn't mean I wouldn't make know to the other guy my displeasure!).
As you said I've already wrote them off. And I told him I what thought. For what good that did. But no rating will be given and I'll just leave it confirmed status. Thanks. Live and learn.
I'm still waiting for 2 swap packages, both with tracking numbers, sent July 27 from Israel and August 16 from Lithuania. For both the last record in the tracking service is a few days after the date they were sent and states that the package was sent to "the country of destination". My regular air mail arrived to both swap partners in less than 2 weeks. Go figure!
I've heard Canada Post employees complain a fair bit about registered mail as it means more work for them. So I've seen them try to convince people not to use it by citing the extra time it takes to arrive. It also means they're accountable for it because we can see where it was last. They hate that.
Peter M. I can't believe your package made it to Ukraine in 9 days, I had to wait 12 for one to come from a city I could have driven to in 3. Easy driving.
Please also notice that it might be illegal to mail money. So if you would like to have an insurance you could not tell you have coins there. Then another issue is custom. For example I'm not allowed to import more than 20 eur worth of goods without custom taxes. So again, not possible to add more value than 20 eur to the label.
If my package is lost I get apprx. 25 eur compensation, total, when using registered mail. No matter what is the value of the content. But I have to pay 10 eur extra to have registered mail. From my point of view, I'm not very happy to use registered mail, because of the high value, but I regularly use it between uncertain countries to be on safe side.
Citeer: "cro321"Registered mail is also insured (the amount varies from country to country) so if lost the post office covers a part of the loss.
it might be different from country to country, but at least in sweden it's illegal to send coins, and therefor they are not covered by the insurance..
Citeer: "cro321"Registered mail is also insured (the amount varies from country to country) so if lost the post office covers a part of the loss.
it might be different from country to country, but at least in sweden it's illegal to send coins, and therefor they are not covered by the insurance..
It's not illegal. Postnord just doesn't allow it on their standard services. Do you really think that rare coins, watches, paintings, gold, silver, etc etc never go in or out of Sweden?
Citeer: "cro321"Registered mail is also insured (the amount varies from country to country) so if lost the post office covers a part of the loss.
it might be different from country to country, but at least in sweden it's illegal to send coins, and therefor they are not covered by the insurance..
It's not illegal. Postnord just doesn't allow it on their standard services. Do you really think that rare coins, watches, paintings, gold, silver, etc etc never go in or out of Sweden?
of course they do! i send it all the time!
well, illegal might be too much to say, the term the use is not allowed to..that's why it's not included in the insurance..
edit: things are rarely labeled "illegal" in sweden, they just tell you that you are not allowed to do "this and that"..probably the word "illegal" is too harsh to use and might offend someone..lol!
Citeer: "cro321"Registered mail is also insured (the amount varies from country to country) so if lost the post office covers a part of the loss.
it might be different from country to country, but at least in sweden it's illegal to send coins, and therefor they are not covered by the insurance..
It's not illegal. Postnord just doesn't allow it on their standard services. Do you really think that rare coins, watches, paintings, gold, silver, etc etc never go in or out of Sweden?
of course they do! i send it all the time!
well, illegal might be too much to say, the term the use is not allowed to..that's why it's not included in the insurance..
edit: things are rarely labeled "illegal" in sweden, they just tell you that you are not allowed to do "this and that"..probably the word "illegal" is too harsh to use and might offend someone..lol!
Talking of swedish mail....
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How long before they will decide to just send it back to me? I sent tracked and signed, and it's just been sitting there for a week!
Registered mail can prove that you sent your coins, but offers no garanty that the coins will be delivered.
As example: did sent 2 kilogram of world coins to Egypt by registered mail. The coins arrived there, just to be kept by the custom officers. They even show the parcell to my swap partner but he couldn't get them because of Egyptian import/export laws.
In other words, swapping world wide it's full of riscs. You must to be aware of lost sendings by theft, wrong package of the coins and several local custom rules.
Registered letters wont change a thing.
So the best option in my opinion is to create a network of trusted swap friends and hope for the best.
But at least the swap partner cannot say that you tried to swindle her/him
This is one of the reasons I use registered mails, together the fact that normal email is not very reliable
Citeer: "smoked_caramel"I'm still waiting for 2 swap packages, both with tracking numbers, sent July 27 from Israel and August 16 from Lithuania. For both the last record in the tracking service is a few days after the date they were sent and states that the package was sent to "the country of destination". My regular air mail arrived to both swap partners in less than 2 weeks. Go figure!
So, the one sent from Israel has finally arrived yesterday (09/15), that is 51 days, or 7 weeks and 2 days. I had to go to the post office to sign for it. But both online services I use for tracking still have no records on this package after it left Israel. My swap partner went to his post office a few days ago and they were able to trace it a bit more saying that it arrived in Canada on August 15.
Citeer: "GiannaReggio"But at least the swap partner cannot say that you tried to swindle her/him
This is one of the reasons I use registered mails, together the fact that normal email is not very reliable
Gianna
Yes, of course I must to agree with that.
The points is that registered mail doesn't offer any garanties. In some cases registered mail can't even be tracked.
I only send registered mail when the value of coins is higher than 100 euro, otherwise the swap and the coins ones get will be extremely expensive.
