Belgium 1916 25 Centimes no dot before or after date

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I just bought this coin because I did not see any dots on sellers picture.
The weight is supposed to be 6.5 grams and this coin's weight is 6.4 grams which is normal.
The diameter is supposed to be 26 mm and this coin's diameter is 25.8 mm which is normal.
Thickness is 1.9 which is normal.

I do understand the coin is made of Zinc and is very worn which could cause the dots to wear away – but - just not sure.

Any members advice or thoughts would be appreciated. THX Ed






I added some filter to the photos:
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Very strange coin. The coin isn't that worn and it's certainly hard to believe that the dots and only the dots could be worn away completely.

Anyway, in the official Belgian catalogue there is no mentioning of that coin without the dots. Only for the similar 10 Centimes 1916, which exists without a dot before the date or without a dot after the date (but not without a dot before and after the date).
No dot after date : http://www.cbnu.be/index.php?topic=1455.0
No dot before date : http://www.cbnu.be/index.php?topic=1454.0
Possible new variety.

Tony
World coins by date and mint place, 1850-2000


It looks like you can see here the traces of the dot after the date. And the distance from the date to the dot is exactly the same as on coins where the dot is clearly visible.

No visual traces however of the dot before the date on any of the pictures.
Citeer: "Essor Prof"

​It looks like you can see here the traces of the dot after the date. And the distance from the date to the dot is exactly the same as on coins where the dot is clearly visible.

​No visual traces however of the dot before the date on any of the pictures.
I saw that but was not sure if it was a dot or not - any place or anyone I can send the coin and get it certified ​one way or the other?
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You could contact Aernout, he's the forum administrator of CBNU :http://www.cbnu.be/index.php?action=profile;u=94

Tony
World coins by date and mint place, 1850-2000
Of this series of sink coins (5 - 10 - 25 cents) are different variations possible in the points.

Some examples:


dot before date, fading dot after date


dot before date, no dot after date


no dot before date, dot after date


no dot before date, fading dot after date AND no trema on E of BELGIË

Fading points support the theory that these coins suffer from die pollution ....

btw: for variaties on Belgian an belgian congo coins you use better: the 'Catalogus van Belgische Numismatische Uitgitfen 1831-2017'. more info: www.cbnu.be

gr,
Aernout
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Citeer: "Aernout86"​​
​no dots before or after date AND no trema on E of BELGIË

​​​The last one definitely has a dot after the date:

Citeer: "Essor Prof"
Citeer: "Aernout86"​​
​​no dots before or after date AND no trema on E of BELGIË

​​​​The last one definitely has a dot after the date:

​Indeed. I adjust it ;)

thanks for your message.

gr,
Aernout
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I thank Essor Prof ,tony.c and Aernout86 for the great information and time they have given me on researching this coin.

If Essor Prof is correct that there is a trace of a dot after the date and none before the date then this coin would qualify as Date letters "1916 •" in our catalog.

I also noted in are catalog we have for the Belgium 1916 10 Centimes
Date letters “• 1916 •”
Date letters "• 1916"
Date letters "1916 •"

As Aernout86 has demonstrated with his examples of the Belgium 1916 25 Centimes pictures it also exist and should be added to our catalog.
Date letters “• 1916 •”
Date letters "• 1916"
Date letters "1916 •"

If Aernout86 would so kindly document this and enter into our catalog it would be appreciated.
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I added the photo's on the numista catalog ;-)

mvg,
Aernout
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Citeer: "Aernout86"​I added the photo's on the numista catalog ;-)

​mvg,
​Aernout
Thank You Sir​
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