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1. Misr. Ah 1187. Regnal year????
2.Custantiniye AH 1143. Regnal year???
3. AH1171. Islambul? Regnal year - 83?????
4.AH 1203 Islambol. I dont understand regnal year "18" .How? Selim ruled 10y
5. AH 1203. Mint Islambol. regnal year??
6.Mint? Year? Regnal year 5?
7. Ah 1187. Misr. Regnal year 20? 201? SOLVED
8.AH1187 . Misr ? Regnal year???
9. AH 11x3 ( 1143?) Mint - Qustantiniya?
10AH1143 Qustantiniya. Regnal year????
11.AH1143 Qustantiniya. Regnal year " KEF" ????
12. what is it? any information . 0,3g silver
13. what is it? any information . 0,6g silver

Thank Yu very much, dear friends !
#7 solved. Its Misr. Ah 1187 / 201 ( Ah 1201) = AD 1788.
You should search for para, not akce

2, 10, 11, 12 are clearly Constantinopel mint
#1 : RY worn off
#2 : RY 8 ?
#3 : RY not 82, simply 2
#4 : https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=129739
Selim III ruled 18 years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selim_III

For the moment, as far as I got
Perhaps you should search Zeno with the information you have:
https://www.zeno.ru/search.php

Nice collection!
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Citeer: "PetrusAscanus"​You should search for para, not akce

​2, 10, 11, 12 are clearly Constantinopel mint
​#1 : RY worn off
​#2 : RY 8 ?
​#3 : RY not 82, simply 2
​#4 : https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=129739
​Selim III ruled 18 years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selim_III

​For the moment, as far as I got
​Perhaps you should search Zeno with the information you have:
https://www.zeno.ru/search.php

​Nice collection!
​Thank You for your help!
thanks, i will try on Zeno.
yours
D
#1 -- It looks like year 5 is the only possibility, but you would need to play with light to confirm. The Arabic "5" is in the shape of an "O".
#2 -- Agree with Petrus that it's probably "8".
#3 -- I read "82" or "83", otherwise I don't know what the triangular shape is doing there. If that's right, that is obviously not a regnal year. And yes: Islambul = Constantinople = Istanbul.
#4 -- I find the date problematic as well.
#5 -- Most likely year is "10".
#6 -- I think Islambul, year 5.
#7 -- I didn't know they did that, i.e. give the current year instead of regnal year.
#8 -- Misr = Cairo (though people usually say "Egypt") seems likely. As for the year... a broken "5"??
#9 -- Yes, Qustantiniyya and I think year 31.
#10 -- ???
#11 -- ??? Looks like a fa (1 dot) rather than a qaf which would have 2 dots.
#12 -- On the 2nd pic, the long line towards the middle could be the "i" sound of "fi" in "duriba fi ..." = "struck in ...". If so, I can't read the name of the mint in the middle.
#13 -- Good luck!
₱o$₮ag€ $₮am₱$ a₹€ mo₹€ £€₲i₮ima₮€ a$ a ƒo₹m oƒ ¢u₹₹€nc¥ ₮ha₦ ₮h€ €₦₮i₹€ "¢oi₦" ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ oƒ ₦au₹u o₹ ₦iu€. ••• £€$ ₮im฿₹€$-₱o$₮€ $o₦₮ ₱£u$ £é₲i₮im€$ €₦ ₮a₦t qu'o฿j€₮$ mo₦é₮ai₹€$ qu€ £a ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ €₦₮iè₹€ d€ «mo₦₦ai€$» d€ ₦au₹u ou d€ ₦iu€.
Dear Camerinvs , - ahhm, thank You very much!! It was not an answer, it was whole research ! :)

Well, I`ll try to answer step by step with my opinions.

#1 - I dont see any digit over "BA" of "ZARB" even under different ungles . Also, I saw in Krause cat. a piece without year ( 1190 )
So, probably it is AH1190 ?

#2 - Could YOu pls tell which detail are you counting as "8" ? If this one , then same is on the obverse as well, so I think its mostly a part of the ornament then "8" . Not?


#3 - agree. 82. and its AH 1182. Thank You !
#4 - 1203/18. Yes, he ruled 18 years, and this is a last year.
#5 - yes, agree. Thank YOu. year 10
#8. "Misr" is "Egypt" , as I know, and Cairo is " Al-Cahira" . Probably yes - broken "5" , but probably " Dal" ?

If "Dal" - then it is "5" anyway :) :) :0
#9 - Oh yes, 31 !! Thank YOu !
#10 - Its " Nun" , so y/16.

Thank YOu again very very very much for you great help !!!

Sincerely,
David
You're welcome, and I did learn a number of things in the process, for example that they sometimes used letters (and yes, therefore, "dal") as numerals.

As for #2, yes, it must be an ornament of some sort rather than "8" which was doubtful anyway. I had not noticed the same ornament was on the obverse as well. But perhaps it's more than an ornament and actually means something?

As for "Misr", it's a case of a name of a country used for the capital city, also known as al-Qahirah, of course. Here is the definition from the Wehr Dictionary (2nd column of p. 911 + first of p. 912):

₱o$₮ag€ $₮am₱$ a₹€ mo₹€ £€₲i₮ima₮€ a$ a ƒo₹m oƒ ¢u₹₹€nc¥ ₮ha₦ ₮h€ €₦₮i₹€ "¢oi₦" ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ oƒ ₦au₹u o₹ ₦iu€. ••• £€$ ₮im฿₹€$-₱o$₮€ $o₦₮ ₱£u$ £é₲i₮im€$ €₦ ₮a₦t qu'o฿j€₮$ mo₦é₮ai₹€$ qu€ £a ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ €₦₮iè₹€ d€ «mo₦₦ai€$» d€ ₦au₹u ou d€ ₦iu€.
wow Ididnot knw that Misr is also Cairo. Thank YOu for sharing !
Yours
D

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