I have this coin that I have been having a hard time figuring out. My father was able to help narrow it down to be a Angelot or Angel coin but I don't know where it is from or what it says. It's made out of Aluminium and has a interesting ring look around the edge that might not be easy to see in the images. If anyone has any information, I would really love to know this coin. Also, I don't know if that is St George or St Michael killing the dragon. I only heard of the story of St George killing the dragon so not really sure which.
"You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."
Citeer: "aaronmgd"Its seems like a modern replica of HENRY VIII FINE GOLD GEORGE NOBLE (1526-29)
Example 1
Example 2
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Aaron
The writing is a little different though, and I can't tell if St George/St Michael is on a horse or not in those.
"You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."
Citeer: "Oklahoman"Michael the arch angel slays a dragon on some Isle of Man bullion coins. He has wings. George doesnt.
Ah, so I was right that this was George then.
"You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."
I'm still looking for information on this coin. Someone told me it could be a confirmation coin though I can't figure out from where or what branch of Christianity.
"You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."
It is indeed a modern replica.
If you look at the life of Henry VIII, you will see that he is born in 1491 and became king in 1509.
So my guess is that your token was made in 1991 or 2009.
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Citeer: "PetrusAscanus"It is indeed a modern replica.
If you look at the life of Henry VIII, you will see that he is born in 1491 and became king in 1509.
So my guess is that your token was made in 1991 or 2009.
The strange look on the edges make it look factory made so there has to be a couple out there. I'm just surprised I can't find anyone who can read what it says or tell me what it is.
"You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."
The writing mimics medieval latin text:
KENIC DGR AAGL PRANO DRS hIBER
This should be:
HENRICus Dei GRatia ANGLiae FRANCiae DomiNuS HIBERniae
Henry, by gods grace, (king of) England France, lord of Ireland
The same for the other side. Just mimic of latin text
It is a token for some kind of commemoration of Henry VIII
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Let's see if someone can figure out what the legend is supposed to be on the St. George side. Building on the earlier comments, St. George is almost always on horseback while slaying the dragon. St. Michael, being an angel, always has wings, and slays a serpent, normally while standing, not on horseback.
So this token or medal is a modern fantasy piece made in the style of two other types: a rose noble for the ship side, and some other coin for the St. George side. An English sovereign for example (though this depiction of St. George is found in many places, including Mansfeld, Germany, and northern Italy).
It looks like whoever designed it wasn't able to correctly read the legends on the medieval prototype they were copying.
As mentioned 7 years ago 🙂upthread, it's a corruption of HERIC DGR ANGL Z FRANC DNS HIBER Henricus Dei Gratia Rex Angliae z Franciae Dominus Hiberniae). So, whoever engraved the die mixed up the Gothc H for a K in Henry, a G for a C in Gratia, the F for a P in Fran, and so on.
So, we can expect similar mistakes in trying to understand the legend on the St. George side. Something like SCS GEORGIVS PROTECTOR was common on coins of Ferrara bearing a likelness of St. George. The one long word starting with P might be a corruption of protector, but no idea on the rest of it.
