Modern VS Historic [opgelost]

Now 200 years has past (of the Benedetto Pistrucci design), which would you rather own?

1. 2017, 200th anniversary design with mint mark
https://www.royalmint.com/discover/sovereigns/the-sovereign-reverse-designs/

2. 1817, 1st Benedetto Pistrucci design
https://www.royalmint.com/discover/sovereigns/the-sovereign-reverse-designs/

Voting until the 17/02/18

Hard to say but probably....
2?

2 has all the beauty hidden inside it.

I personally think the garter's presence clutters up what is a very striking design; it was the right decision to remove it in 1821 IMO. Less can be more sometimes.

On the other hand I would still love to have either.

Citeer: "CassTaylor"​I personally think the garter's presence clutters up what is a very striking design; it was the right decision to remove it in 1821 IMO. Less can be more sometimes.
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​On the other hand I would still love to have either.

I like the garter design but I still think it was the right choice to do it.
It was fun putting it back (special edition) but the coin is more iconic without,
same with crown coins.​

Citeer: "CassTaylor"​I personally think the garter's presence clutters up what is a very striking design; it was the right decision to remove it in 1821 IMO. Less can be more sometimes.
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​On the other hand I would still love to have either.

I'd take them any day also.​ Great iconic piece of gold.

Back in the day a sovereign was £1, quite a lot of money!
During the war effort you could donate them or use them to buy war bonds,
A guinea was a pound and five pence,
even during decimalization radio shows and livestock markets had prizes and bid £1.05 at a time.

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Citeer: "Numismatist uk"​Back in the day a sovereign was £1, quite a lot of money!
​During the war effort you could donate them or use them to buy war bonds,
​A guinea was a pound and five pence,
​even during decimalization radio shows and livestock markets had prizes and bid £1.05 at a time.

​I always thought that a 'guinea' and a 'sovereign' were interchangeable terms for the same gold coin... first time I found out that guineas are technically worth a bit more than sovereigns (hence why each gold denomination's pre 1800 coins are listed behind their sovereign 'equivalent' 1817- gold coins in the UK catalogue).

Until the mid-20th century people still referred to £1 coins as 'guineas' though; I've seen a 1952 newspaper for the funeral of King George VI that offered a space on the funeral route for '50 guineas'.

Citeer: "CassTaylor"​

Citeer: "Numismatist uk"​Back in the day a sovereign was £1, quite a lot of money!
​​During the war effort you could donate them or use them to buy war bonds,
​​A guinea was a pound and five pence,
​​even during decimalization radio shows and livestock markets had prizes and bid £1.05 at a time.

​​I always thought that a 'guinea' and a 'sovereign' were interchangeable terms for the same gold coin... first time I found out that guineas are technically worth a bit more than sovereigns (hence why each gold denomination's pre 1800 coins are listed behind their sovereign 'equivalent' 1817- gold coins in the UK catalogue).
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​Until the mid-20th century people still referred to £1 coins as 'guineas' though; I've seen a 1952 newspaper for the funeral of King George VI that offered a space on the funeral route for '50 guineas'.

I suppose it's similar to calling a shilling a 'bob' but with other coinage.
(In the US a slang term for 1/2 cents was 1/2 sisters and a 6 pence in the Uk was a tanner or bender)
Also for £50 you would need the full treatment, by some articles I've read it was 2.5% of an average house price of £2000.
(also a more modern day example of a £2 - a beer token )

Try this site for more...
http://blog.royalmint.com/coin-nicknames-the-british-fondness-for-change/
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Guineas were always "posh" money. During my lifetime I've only used it twice, both times for paying the conveyancing fees on real estate. I have the non-googled impression that by early Victorian times the Guinea was merely a pricing mechanism for horse flesh and fine art, while the business of government and commerce was done in Pound Sterling.

There's a charming widespread belief that the extra shilling was the auctioneer's fee for those trading in horses. It could be true, the name persists in several race classes today. I hope so, I enjoy such things. The Groat or 4d was reportedly (re)introduced because it was the standard fare for a London hackney cab. It's nickname "joey" was a long forgotten tribute to the politician who demanded it. I've heard the same thing about the sixpence / tanner but I find the Groat story more believable as the sixpence fits very well into the LSD currency while the Groat seems to be an odd denomination serving no real purpose other than delighting numismatists.

Citeer: "pnightingale"​Guineas were always "posh" money. During my lifetime I've only used it twice, both times for paying the conveyancing fees on real estate. I have the non-googled impression that by early Victorian times the Guinea was merely a pricing mechanism for horse flesh and fine art, while the business of government and commerce was done in Pound Sterling.
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​There's a charming widespread belief that the extra shilling was the auctioneer's fee for those trading in horses. It could be true, the name persists in several race classes today. I hope so, I enjoy such things. The Groat or 4d was reportedly (re)introduced because it was the standard fare for a London hackney cab. It's nickname "joey" was a long forgotten tribute to the politician who demanded it. I've heard the same thing about the sixpence / tanner but I find the Groat story more believable as the sixpence fits very well into the LSD currency while the Groat seems to be an odd denomination serving no real purpose other than delighting numismatists.
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LSD has many confusing denominations such as a 1/3rd farthing and the 4 shilling coin.
Very interesting pieces of history.​

I just revisited the original discussion on coin nicknames to try to shed some more light. It was the silver 3d which contended with the groat for the "joey" tag, not the sixpence. Slightly before my time. We had the brass ones by the time I was around, I can remember Farthings being used though.

Y'all might find this interesting -

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic38403.html

Citeer: "pnightingale"​I just revisited the original discussion on coin nicknames to try to shed some more light. It was the silver 3d which contended with the groat for the "joey" tag, not the sixpence. Slightly before my time. We had the brass ones by the time I was around, I can remember Farthings being used though.
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​Y'all might find this interesting -
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​https://en.numista.com/forum/topic38403.html
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Thanks, very interesting!​

100% 1800's