hello to everyone what do you think of the new version?

hello to everyone what do you think of the new version? I'm getting very bad. I think that the chances of error in exchanges where you can cancel your currency rather than the currency to be exchanged is very high. before it was much faster and more intuitive. I ask everyone to make a judgment

Every time you edit on my laptop it jumps to the top of the page with no edit?

Can't stand it. It's cumbersome, ugly, and cluttered. Just go back to the old version.

Citeer: "owatchman"​Can't stand it. It's cumbersome, ugly, and cluttered. Just go back to the old version.

I prefer the aesthetics of the old version so I hope the new features ​shall outweigh my doubts

The new functionnalities are great but the way they are managed (user interface) is bad.
I will be missing the old grid which allowed a very quick solution to add a new coin in the collection.

I don't like it. The overview is completely gone. Why a 'delete' button for each coin? When you are collecting by date and you scroll you do not know 'where' you are. Update your swaplist will cost a lot of extra time. Just my opinion. But, I'm still happy this site exists!

The old grid was much easier to see. The new display is difficult to manage on small screens.

The new display does not allow me to put 1 VG and 1 F of the same coin on the same line.

I like that you can exit without saving if you have any question about what it originally had entered.

Citeer: "Numismatist uk"​Every time you edit on my laptop it jumps to the top of the page with no edit?

Try to make logout. I had the same problem and now is OK.​

Citeer: "jarka1456"​

Citeer: "Numismatist uk"​Every time you edit on my laptop it jumps to the top of the page with no edit?

​Try to make logout. I had the same problem and now is OK.​

Its fine now Xavier fixed it.​

This is the first change on the Numista, which I'm not ready to accept in this form. I lost the charm of the simplicity of collection management.

The old version was much easier to manage lists and more readable.

I don't like it. If you want to add prices use a spreadsheet. Furthermore it makes adding coins in bulk a pain in the ass. For Example if I want to add 50 1/2 Mark from German Empire I now have to add each date in every condition on their own without simply using the TAB button

personally I do not like the new look, I do prefer the old look, it felt much cleaner and easier to add and manage coins.

I think I don't have problem with this version, but these are my ideas for further upgrade:

1 - to recover the Fast Input which disappear since the update.
2 - to add an option of show/hide the buying value from the public.
3 - to add an option of selectable currency for buying value: I bought/swap using USD,JPY, EUR, THB,... I don't want to see exchange rate whenever I input. I always memo the date I got the coins, so I can just chech the exchange rate for specific date.
4 - to add an button for switching public/private comment: for helping those who already write comments for their collection.

Citeer: "Sakrificed"​I think I don't have problem with this version, but these are my ideas for further upgrade:
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​1 - to recover the Fast Input which disappear since the update.
​2 - to add an option of show/hide the buying value from the public.
​3 - to add an option of selectable currency for buying value: I bought/swap using USD,JPY, EUR, THB,... I don't want to see exchange rate whenever I input. I always memo the date I got the coins, so I can just chech the exchange rate for specific date.
​4 - to add an button for switching public/private comment: for helping those who already write comments for their collection.

I still have the fast input. ​

Citeer ​I still have the fast input. ​
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​teach me master

Collection management became very complicated, I don't like it.

The page of exchange became bulky, on addition of coins much more time will leave.
It is made for the sake of the comment to each coin? What for?
I very much liked the website first of all because of a possibility of convenient exchange.
As for maintaining a collection, there was earlier a place where it is realized better (ucoin.net).
But here much more coins are still presented.
Plus realization of intuitively convenient swap.
Recent changes have killed all advantages.
I hope to return for the old version of the website.

Please have a look an announcement thread by Xavier. Old one line look will be brought back as an option.

As I tested this, I found multiple comments convenient, mainly for medieval coins, which usually have something you would want to describe here. I agree that it looks inflated on coins with many year lines though.

I'm not happy with this new form. It's good to add now private and official comment. But I can't inform anyone about coins gone. In the past I deleted a coin in my swap list and gave the informatione "gone" or "out" and this message appears in the swap monitor of my partner. Now I delete the swap coins and no more info possible. Or I have to stay "1" for swap coin (what's wrong) and I could give the information. Shit!
It get's confusing, too much pictograms in the year line.
HELP: Where can I find the "back to old version" button???????
Account settings: Please add two buttons to the private "Account settings": "Back to old version" showing the swap monitor AND "back to old version" showing the coins (year lines) without these "thousands" of pictograms...

... oh bullshit! I want to have this "back to old version"-button as soon as possible! PLEASE!!! Away with these childish icons. I want to save time with internet, not spending more time in internet!
I wrote comments for my swap partners to lots of coins including swap values. But I can't see it comparing them on main swap monitor. I must open every coin page to find my own comments - in the past I could see them on the swap monitor.
New version is disimprove

I can not change the site anymore. he tells me "ajax error"

Citeer: "Cyrillius"​This is the first change on the Numista, which I'm not ready to accept in this form. I lost the charm of the simplicity of collection management.

​Exactly, 100 % agree

Citeer: "coinsmor"​I can not change the site anymore. he tells me "ajax error"

​Hello coinsmor,
Do you still have the issue?

What do we do if we want to add auction results for rare coins from auction houses?

I use Numista daily, so I will get used to the improvements.

CIAO Xavier ora il problema è stato risolto grazie Coinsmor

Citeer: "nthn"​What do we do if we want to add auction results for rare coins from auction houses?

Hello nthn,
You can send me an Excel file with the following columns:
- Coin ID (from the coin page URL)
- Coin date/variant ID (visible only to admins)
- Grade
- URL of the sale on the website of the auction house
- Price
- Currency
The plan is to automatize more or at least provide a page to enter the prices, but this will come in a later phase.

Simply horrid

Originally I was not impressed by the changes, and now that I have has a chance to use it a bit, I still don't see any advantages to the new design. The values it will generate will be of dubious value, if any, and the interface for entering new coins looks much worse. Considering that the one major change in functionality is the value function, I think we're better off with the old version.

Iam not sure, But one thing does not make any sense to me. Coin values are local . A UK coin in the UK is cheaper in the UK then here in the US. How well we show the differences. If everyone in the world put the value in of a coin they buy in there country. how is that a market value. It seems to me to be a value that has no meaning. If iam wrong please feel free to tell me. Just an old fart.

Citeer: "ALLRED1950"​Iam not sure, But one thing does not make any sense to me. Coin values are local . A UK coin in the UK is cheaper in the UK then here in the US. How well we show the differences. If everyone in the world put the value in of a coin they buy in there country. how is that a market value. It seems to me to be a value that has no meaning. If iam wrong please feel free to tell me. Just an old fart.

eg. If a coin was available in the Us and Europe but each had different ​privy marks the European coin would be scarcer and more sought after and then more valuable in the Us with a very small supply however it is vastly replicated across Europe, and vice-versa

I just don't see how it going to mean anything.Like when I got all my silver Roosevelt's. I have the full set, from 1945 to 1964. All or most in VF condition. From a silver buyer. He let me go though and get the dates an mint marks I needed. They were mostly one US dollar or less. How is that going to mean anything in Europe.

I love the fact that now we can put values, but I guess the new input method is a bit confused, or is it just matter of time until we get used to it.

Citeer: "ALLRED1950"​Iam not sure, But one thing does not make any sense to me. Coin values are local . A UK coin in the UK is cheaper in the UK then here in the US. How well we show the differences. If everyone in the world put the value in of a coin they buy in there country. how is that a market value. It seems to me to be a value that has no meaning. If iam wrong please feel free to tell me. Just an old fart.

​It's the other way around for rare coins. A high grade Ragusa coin or Slavonian denar will cost more in Croatia than in the US just as a key date Morgan dollar will be worth more in the US than in Croatia.

When adding values was first discussed I was under the impression catalogue value would be added, where available, to the Numista page of a coin. Although catalogue value is sometimes unrealistic it's still a good base for balancing swaps and would save time spent searching for values.

I see nothing good that can come from the current value system and it'll probably be just as unreliable for valuing coins as the Numista rarity index is for determining rarity. It's unrealistic, can be manipulated and will be completely unreliable to use for swaps.

I am very unhappy with the changes, I was used to the old version and could enter many new coins to my collection with no hassle. I look at this now and cannot figure out what I have. Any changing to me is changing over 17000 coins. Please at least leave us with the option to go with the old way.

I dont like it.

I cant add a coment if i dont have the coins in my collection, some times when I have several swaps opened I need to put information in some coins who will be send to me in a swap confirmed, this info is very Useful in the swaps how are opened.

the only upgrade i like it is the "Private" and "Public" comments.

(Sorry for my english)

Manu.

Citeer: "Geison"​I love the fact that now we can put values, but I guess the new input method is a bit confused, or is it just matter of time until we get used to it.
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​I agree. It is confusing, but after a few changes, I think it will be good.

Citeer: "Jarcek"​Please have a look an announcement thread by Xavier. Old one line look will be brought back as an option.
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​As I tested this, I found multiple comments convenient, mainly for medieval coins, which usually have something you would want to describe here. I agree that it looks inflated on coins with many year lines though.
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​Thanks. I'll check into that thread.

I'm at least confused with the new layout, especially with the coins summary.
Take a look below:

This is a coin I only have once, which the summary shows. But if you look for the details it looks like I got two pieces: there are two lines showing '1x' each .


PS: I don't seem to be able to find Xavier's post about the 'change log'. Can anyone give me directions (or a link)?

Citeer: "Palinka83"​I don't seem to be able to find Xavier's post about the 'change log'. Can anyone give me directions (or a link)?

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic67354.html#p545857

Citeer: "Palinka83"​I'm at least confused with the new layout, especially with the coins summary.
​Take a look below:
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​This is a coin I only have once, which the summary shows. But if you look for the details it looks like I got two pieces: there are two lines showing '1x' each .
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​PS: I don't seem to be able to find Xavier's post about the 'change log'. Can anyone give me directions (or a link)?
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​To make this even more confusing (and possibly also messing up the collection):

I have 3 pieces of this Swedish coins as correctly shown in my 'my collection' overview:
Clicking at the coin's details here it actually messes up the collection (partially?!) because now it shows I've got 5 pieces of this coin, 2 of them for exchange:

Here it seems the system made extra entries for having one and having one for change, which actually are one and the same coin (the third coin I have in the collection didn't fit the screenshot).

I have the same mistake.
Also the comments made earlier to swap are automatically shown against all coins of this year now.

Citeer: "Palinka83"​I'm at least confused with the new layout, especially with the coins summary.
​Take a look below:
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​This is a coin I only have once, which the summary shows. But if you look for the details it looks like I got two pieces: there are two lines showing '1x' each .
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​PS: I don't seem to be able to find Xavier's post about the 'change log'. Can anyone give me directions (or a link)?
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The coin you have in your collection is a coin you wish to swap i.e. system displays the fact you have the coin AND that the coin is for swap instead of just displaying the swap line only. A bug reported for correction.

​Here is the thread started by Xavier to explain changes.

I don't like the new version. Is more dispersive and it's necessary a lot of more time for adding the double coins and manage the collection.
I hope to come back to the old version.

My opinion:
- Good improvement
- Keep both options... one line look for Fast Input and new edit mode
- For Change Management mitigation... keep option of "back to old version"

-edwod

Hello,
First of all I must admit I'm not a fan. The clunky blue buttons and ticks look unsophisticated and more child-ish, also I think it makes it harder to see what coins you have.
The delete button would make so much more sense on the swap list, to be able to delete them in bulk faster, putting this version and delete button on the "My Swaplist" page only. But it's not on even now....

Also when you are adding more coins to a swap, it's stopped telling you what coins you have already chosen, so you need to open another tab to see exactly which years and which coins you have already added.

I hope they change it again, either back to normal or different on the my swaplist section

Thanks pejounet for your reply.

As mentioned in my post after the one you replied to (and in Xaviers post), the bug actually becomes a problem, when coins are counted twice (for having them and having them on the swap list).

To be honest I'm afraid of loosing data (messing up the complete collection) if I add or modify my coins before that bug is being fixed

Hello,
For those who prefer the previous interface, you may go to your account settings and choose the second option for "Display of my collection".
The old version is available for the coin pages, display of your coins and fast input in search results. The rest will come soon.

A nice new feature I have just seen ...

where the two choices 'I wish to get this coin / I don't wish to get this coin' are now
below the search list - so quick to mark them now rather than going to each
page then back again.

Citeer: "ZacUK"​ A nice new feature I have just seen ...
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​where the two choices 'I wish to get this coin / I don't wish to get this coin' are now
​below the search list - so quick to mark them now rather than going to each
​page then back again.

​Sorry I was too quick in bringing back the old version. I just fixed the issue. Let me know if you notice other bugs.

Citeer: "ZacUK"​ A nice new feature I have just seen ...
​
​where the two choices 'I wish to get this coin / I don't wish to get this coin' are now
​below the search list - so quick to mark them now rather than going to each
​page then back again.

​That's a revelation! I'm busy compiling a huge wish list and this feature would definitely be handy!

OK, let's get straight to it. My widely supported suggestion to change statistics so that everyone can see BOTH coins from collection AND coins from swap list, either divided or put together (or, if possible both), as it makes no sense to see, for example, how many kilos of silver I have in my collection while I do not know how many kilos of silver I have in total (including coins from swap, which are more than 50% in my case) was not implemented despite promises in over 2 years but you have managed to implement widely rejected change of the interface? Why?
And where can I change it? While "buying value" is nice feature (which, however, I do not have time to use, as I'd basically have to update my whole colletion), the overall look and usefulness is terrible and I want to have good old Numista.
Statistics were good change (sadly ended half-way), this is not. But maybe adding buying power to old look would make it slightly better.

Citeer: "Xavier"​Hello,
​For those who prefer the previous interface, you may go to your account settings and choose the second option for "Display of my collection".
​The old version is available for the coin pages, display of your coins and fast input in search results. The rest will come soon.

​It is not so hard to spot.

Citeer: "Jarcek"​

Citeer: "Xavier"​Hello,
​​For those who prefer the previous interface, you may go to your account settings and choose the second option for "Display of my collection".
​​The old version is available for the coin pages, display of your coins and fast input in search results. The rest will come soon.

​​It is not so hard to spot.

​Thank you. I indeed didn't go through all the discussion but so well hidden, it is hard to spot. It shall be, as it is usually after major changes, easily visible on each page as a simple click-on icon.

I do not like it at all. The new system doesn't give me the ease of control at the old one did. Sure, it is more technical but now I have to learn new icons to figure out what to do and hope I don't delete something by mistake. Sometimes improvements are good, but this is definitely a very bad Improvement. I really do not understand how to make it work.

Citeer: "phulen"...hope I don't delete something by mistake...

One improvement with new system:

Old system : no warning.
vs.
​New system : always a popup asking for confirmation before deletion i.e. no mistake possible.

Hi
I am also not quite satisfied with it. Its just cumbersome. But in the end, I hope and think that admins will learn from all written remarks and make further adjustments, as they usually do.
I don't like:
- "My coins" site does not enable you to add coins to the collection (I mean here other mintage years), you literally have to go to the coin page, this could be better (I don't know if background allows it).
-"Private comment" should be visible in swap site but only to my self, right now it is only public comment which is available and for any private info during an active swap, you have to go to the coin page - that extra time clicking I REALLY DON'T LIKE.
- I was hoping, that in swap window, each coin with remark "I don't wish to get this coin" would get a red light or something like that - similar to icon when adding more coins to the swap. Same goes for a remark "I wish to get this coin". If such traffic light shall be added, consider it adding between checkboxes and coin picture. Here I would suggest, that admins add new functionality to the "Actions" panel in swap page, where they would add option "Hide coins I don't wish to get". This way user can optimize only its wish list - you then see the relevant stuff - case of use: I just got this coin from somewhere else.
- Overall, Numista page is now almost twice as long as before. Personally I like things tight, not spread out. Although I must say, I am positively surprised over mobile pages.
- Coin pop-up windows name is "Edit items in my collection". This sounds nice for coins in actual collection. For coins intended to be swapped, maybe it would be more intuitive to have a name of the window, some thing like "Edit items in my swap list". Pop-ups for coin collection and swap list should also have different color backgrounds - just to make less mistakes.

I like:
- differentiation between "Public comment:" and "Private comment:", latter one being my wish for some time now.
- although I liked previous 5 windows and an extra one for number of coins in swap list, I can understand why this shift, now everyone can add coins in swap list by their quality. Still I am not going to add quality grades, not that I have added already some 27k coins in swap list.

hopefully not more to follow....

Best regards, Uros

Citeer: "marcel.jung"​​​Thank you. I indeed didn't go through all the discussion but so well hidden, it is hard to spot. It shall be, as it is usually after major changes, easily visible on each page as a simple click-on icon.

​You can always use the Control+F function and search for Xavier to find his posts.

Personally, I have just started to work in the new version, and the biggest problem I have is the counter not listing my full number of coins in a given type. I understand why it does it - is it to only list the ones available for swap? If I have two of the same coin, and one is available for swap, it does not list my full compliment of two coins. Maybe I am the only one that considers this a problem, maybe not. My vote is still out on this.

Citeer: "zeeba41"​I am very unhappy with the changes, I was used to the old version and could enter many new coins to my collection with no hassle. I look at this now and cannot figure out what I have. Any changing to me is changing over 17000 coins. Please at least leave us with the option to go with the old way.

​Cannot agree more!

THÉ ONLY SOLUTION IS THE FOLLOWING’

KEEP THE « OLD » VERSION.

It is easier ans you do not waste your precious time in comparing the « values » self- decided by 4 or 5 unknown collectors.

MAYBE TRADERS...

To keep the old version, open your « settings »’

Go to « display of my collection »

And finally click on «  One line per coin year,without coin value ».

IT WORKS

Jean

Hello friends, I had to try new version, but i really dont like, sorry.
I prefer KEEP THE « OLD » VERSION

With new version everything takes much more time to add, edit coins in my collection or swaps,
i need thousands of more clicks (i could also not imagine do this on my smarthone),
and also there is much more scrolling and icons, for me it is very unclear.
just compare for example :
My Slovakia circulation coins 1993-2008 which I collect and swap by years:
old version - 9 pages
new version - 16 pages



Try imagine if someone collect and swap for example german federal circulation coins 1950-2001
by years and mintmarks, it would be on 300 pages instead of 100 pages...
It would take several hours instead of minutes to edit collection like this.

regards
Tomas

Citeer: "szmata"​THÉ ONLY SOLUTION IS THE FOLLOWING’
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​KEEP THE « OLD » VERSION.
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​It is easier ans you do not waste your precious time in comparing the « values » self- decided by 4 or 5 unknown collectors.
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​MAYBE TRADERS...
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​To keep the old version, open your « settings »’
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​Go to « display of my collection »
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​And finally click on «  One line per coin year,without coin value ».
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​IT WORKS
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​Jean
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​Unfortunately, this does not work for the swap monitor yet.
There is still a long time to add coins and comments are not saved.

With so much negativity around, I would like to go on record to say that I like the new format! There is increased functionality, which is why it can't look like the old format, and I think the additional features makes Numista a more powerful tool. Keep the old version if you want but I will be adding values, private and public comments and I had already started listing all my duplicate swaps (more than 1 to swap) but now I can give each one a different grade if I want to. Thank you Xavier, keep up the good work!

Hello everyone, where is the old comments in my collection. I miss all my comments??
Regards
Horacio

I use Numista only to keep track of my collection and I haven't done any exchanges so far. IMHO, A new way of adding/removing coins to/from the collection is much nicer and structured. I don't understand yet how coins value will work, but I hope once more people add purchase prices to their collections anyone will be able to lookup approximate prices of particular coin on Numista website.

Citeer: "radrick007"​With so much negativity around, I would like to go on record to say that I like the new format! There is increased functionality, which is why it can't look like the old format, and I think the additional features makes Numista a more powerful tool. Keep the old version if you want but I will be adding values, private and public comments and I had already started listing all my duplicate swaps (more than 1 to swap) but now I can give each one a different grade if I want to. Thank you Xavier, keep up the good work!

​Finally, some positivity!

I have kept silent until the usual bugs were worked out as they are in any new systems change. we have added the powerful statistical tool of group wisdom to the software to create a realistic pricing model. This can already be seen on some recent two euro coins. This is something Krause could never do as it is impossible to update 500,000 prices manually. This will be the death knell of the paper catalog as numismatics ascends into the digital age.

Ernie

Glad that I´ve found here how to set back to the old version :-) Great and done!

First I thought "cool", but then, as was already said, for year collectors is a complete madness to find out which are the missing coins with so much lines.
But that is still "cool" for who collects just a few coins and want to customize their info, such as price, comments, etc. so, the improvement makes sense for them.

I like improvements and we should support when it comes.

At first moment new version was a shock to me, but after browsing and understanding it was not bad, I still like the old grid, that seems more intuitive.

But the variation that I think is a great loss is the need to add a coin to put comments.

I explain: I used to add a comment when I was negotiating a swap, like "asked to Jarcek 18-03-05", and then deleted it when receiving and registering the coins. This way, when I looked for coins in another swap, I would know if I have already asked other member for it; no reason to ask for same coin to 2 or more swap partners, specially if they are scarce or valuable coins. The date helped me to know if was recent or not, if was some months old, I could say would not receive it, and I could just delete the comment, and also helped me to manage swaps, if cancelled swaps I would delete the comments, or find missing coins in swaps. Also useful when I buy coins, from local dealers, auctions, etc. I would avoid to buy coins I still not have, but waiting for them in swaps.

Other use I gave to it: for some countries I collect variants, but not years, in coins with several year lines, being many years, variants, engravers, or whatever, I could add comment "missing variant" or something, so I didn't need to look every line to find what I'm missing.

In the new version, I need add a coin if I want to add a comment; 0 is not a valid option. Later, I would ask to myself: "why I asked this coin in swap if I have one already?" Answer: I don't have the coin, but need to register one to add comment. Doesn't make sense, right?

I tried switching to old version, and there it lets me add the comment, but when saving comment is gone.

Do not like it at all.

I prefer the old version

I have not seen the old version. But this new version is really very nice. I can easily navigate from one page to another.

I am thinking... wouldn´t it be good if you could just add the value in Euros in case of coins for exchange and it will be available for everyone to see ?

Basically that would eliminate most of the needs for the public comments.

I really like the new format. I've been trying to spend as much time as possible converting my old inventory to the individual coin listing with value.

Value (from my coin page)

My values
for 74% of my coins $3808 Seems to be total of all coins I have put prices in system.

Estimate
for 36% of my coins $1597 Seems to be total of my coins that have calculated totals.

From the total of 110% some of the coins are counted twice and perhaps at different values.

Could someone validate or refute my observations?

Hello navroc,
That's correct