So, is there any coin whose value has been introduced by 4 people and thus already shown up? I haven't seen any yet, so why don't we make a list for the first few days to see how Numista is slowly filling up?
Citeer: "fryant"So, is there any coin whose value has been introduced by 4 people and thus already shown up? I haven't seen any yet, so why don't we make a list for the first few days to see how Numista is slowly filling up?
None of mine yet
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Citeer: "fryant"So, is there any coin whose value has been introduced by 4 people and thus already shown up? I haven't seen any yet, so why don't we make a list for the first few days to see how Numista is slowly filling up?
None of mine yet
Hello colleagues
Do we try a particular state / KM, coins common to all available in the collection? The more collectors are added and the coins have to be common.
Sign up for collectors and select KM / State !
I assume Morgan/Peace dollars are going to be among the first 'valuable' coins to have values show up, if not some of the more common Crowns and Canadian Dollars
Citeer: "CassTaylor"I assume Morgan/Peace dollars are going to be among the first 'valuable' coins to have values show up, if not some of the more common Crowns and Canadian Dollars
I put a few of my antique silver on a while ago.
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Citeer: "CassTaylor"I assume Morgan/Peace dollars are going to be among the first 'valuable' coins to have values show up, if not some of the more common Crowns and Canadian Dollars
I put a few of my antique silver on a while ago.
Yeah, I added the purchase prices of most of my big old silver coins
Citeer: "CassTaylor"I assume Morgan/Peace dollars are going to be among the first 'valuable' coins to have values show up, if not some of the more common Crowns and Canadian Dollars
That's a good theory. Maybe some valuable French coins will have values soon as well, because of the other side of Numista.
And to answer the question: No. I've added probably a few hundreds yesterday, but still nothing shows up. Not even on the Morgan Dollar or the Barber quarter.
I can't see the value.
And to answer the question: No. I've added probably a few hundreds yesterday, but still nothing shows up. Not even on the Morgan Dollar or the Barber quarter.
It's on the UNC of the 1979 line in that page.
Same here; I racked my brain all afternoon yesterday for approximate prices.
I think at least 4 people have to enter a value for a single box (e.g. the UNC box for 1929 date line) before it shows up; another 4 have to input value into the next grade of that year before XF 1929 shows up, and so on.
I honestly think we should just have 1 person's input showing up as a grade, and an average can be calculated if/when more people add their numbers... although then we'd have the troublemakers inputting large sums and wrecking the system.
Citeer: "ngdawa"Out of my 7,044 coins listed on Numista, so far 0 has got a value.
I think that the values are either not counted or are updated once a day or something. I have Belgian 5 francs in VF, they have value of 10 EUR at the moment. This value isn't changing when I change it's price to 5, 15, 25 or whatever.
There will be more options for values - some automatic taken from somewhere (I do not know from where), some could be added by referees (so these could be added by requests, from auctions etc..).
Citeer: "Jarcek"there need to be at least 4 values inserted.
what about the coins only owned by 1 or 2 people? they will never get a value then..
If you have auctions prices for various coins, you may also send values to Xavier as Excel input. See his related post here.
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I can't see the value.
And to answer the question: No. I've added probably a few hundreds yesterday, but still nothing shows up. Not even on the Morgan Dollar or the Barber quarter.
It's on the UNC of the 1979 line in that page.
found it! but compare the price of this nickle coin with the belgian silver further up. do you see what i see?
Citeer: "sferreira"There's any value showing up that is not 10.00€? The few values I've seen so far are all 10.00€...
I've only seen two values described above in this thread, both were 10.00... No changes since Sunday. I filled some prices and I do believe that it's just not working at the moment.
Let's choose one single coin page, for a common coin most of us own, and each add our values to it. Then we can see how the new feature works. How about the nickel French franc already linked above?
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so basically this is saying that the coin is less valuable than its silver content. If this continues in this direction somehow don't see this being a reputable way to price our coins.
The problem I see with this is I get a lot of coins at prices that are well below book value (Krause) and often below spot prices. By entering my actual buy price, I am devaluing the coins for everyone else.
Why isn't the values shown in My Coins? If I have to enter each coin sheet to see the value it's pretty lame, I reckon. I was hoping that the value would be easily viewed in my collection.
so basically this is saying that the coin is less valuable than its silver content. If this continues in this direction somehow don't see this being a reputable way to price our coins.
Matt
That certainly does seem wrong. To solve that problem, I would think that we need some sort of minimum value for precious-metal coins. So, if the median happens to be lower than a coin's melt value, its price would automatically be bumped to its melt value. I am not sure if that would be possible, but there should be something put in place to solve that issue...
Citeer: "Raider"The problem I see with this is I get a lot of coins at prices that are well below book value (Krause) and often below spot prices. By entering my actual buy price, I am devaluing the coins for everyone else.
so basically this is saying that the coin is less valuable than its silver content. If this continues in this direction somehow don't see this being a reputable way to price our coins.
Matt
As Numinis mentions, this was discussed but is not yet implemented.
Idea is to have a minimum price displayed, in this case precious metal value would be displayed instead as long as value calculation is below. Krause value will not be the minimum value.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
So the value is currently 12.30. Is that euros, dollars, francs, other?
Currency displayed is the one you selected in your profile (same one used to enter your own values/buying price).
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Citeer: "ngdawa"Why isn't the values shown in My Coins? If I have to enter each coin sheet to see the value it's pretty lame, I reckon. I was hoping that the value would be easily viewed in my collection.
In the coin sheet:
In My Coins list:
Indeed would be nice, reported.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Citeer: "ngdawa"Why isn't the values shown in My Coins? If I have to enter each coin sheet to see the value it's pretty lame, I reckon. I was hoping that the value would be easily viewed in my collection.
In the coin sheet:
In My Coins list:
Indeed would be nice, reported.
cheers, mate! here i don't think the grade need tonbe shown since, in this case, i've already marked it as unc..
Citeer: "Cerulean"Let's choose one single coin page, for a common coin most of us own, and each add our values to it. Then we can see how the new feature works. How about the nickel French franc already linked above?
It would be nice. It needs to start from somewhere. When the values coming to show up over all the countries, this new layout of numista will be more friendly.
Also, I think the 2 euro cc will be a type of coin which values should start to appear soon. The main problem to start work fine is the low accession and usage of this new layout.
I have been diligently uploading the prices I paid for my coins...just takes time since some were swaps, eBay purchases, local coin store and purchases when I was abroad. I think this could be a cool tool. Perhaps not the be all and end all but certainly a step in the right direction. I mean catalog values aren't really awesome to use for swaps either. I try to look on eBay sold listings and I would continue to do that as well but I do like the effort being put in here.
Agreed, it's really nice to see the website is being maintained and new features being added. The next step should be "Numista rarity index" (or a number of users) per coin year, rather than per type.
I can't see the value.
And to answer the question: No. I've added probably a few hundreds yesterday, but still nothing shows up. Not even on the Morgan Dollar or the Barber quarter.
It's on the UNC of the 1979 line in that page.
Same here; I racked my brain all afternoon yesterday for approximate prices.
Since this whole thing started I've been trying to figure out what people were talking about. So thank you for that. Honestly I had no idea.
Is this an evolving system then? Changing as more users input their prices paid?
I just finished going through all of my United Kingdom coins, and this was the only one I could find with a value: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces884.html.
(The year with the value is not the year I own though.)
Thanks, I'm pleased as I have this one
'We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.'
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As it was announced, the value shown is not an average, but a median.
If this 5 cents coin was sold somewhere as an individual collectible item, then it is very likely that the price was above face value. Otherwise there would be no incentive to sell it at all. I believe that such sales don't happen in Austria, but Austria is not the whole world.
I'm not much into this valuation thing, but what are the rules if I pick a coin from circulation for my collection (I have most of my euro coins from circulation)?
Could I add the nominal value as a 'purchase' value then?
And what about swapping? Most of my coins added over the last year result from swap on Numista. How would I evaluate those? Or shouldn't I?
Citeer: "ArnoV"I'm not much into this valuation thing, but what are the rules if I pick a coin from circulation for my collection (I have most of my euro coins from circulation)?
Could I add the nominal value as a 'purchase' value then?
And what about swapping? Most of my coins added over the last year result from swap on Numista. How would I evaluate those? Or shouldn't I?
So far I've just been adding the purchase price, since it says Buying value - which I have understood as "the price you payed when you bought it". The coins I've picked out from circulation, recieved, and swapped will I leave blank sinve I didn't buy them.
Citeer: "ArnoV"I'm not much into this valuation thing, but what are the rules if I pick a coin from circulation for my collection (I have most of my euro coins from circulation)?
Could I add the nominal value as a 'purchase' value then?
And what about swapping? Most of my coins added over the last year result from swap on Numista. How would I evaluate those? Or shouldn't I?
So far I've just been adding the purchase price, since it says Buying value - which I have understood as "the price you payed when you bought it". The coins I've picked out from circulation, recieved, and swapped will I leave blank sinve I didn't buy them.
Coins I've plucked from circulation I enter their face value in; for example my commemorative 2€ is listed as 2,00€. Not sure if this is a good thing to do, but oh well.
Citeer: "ArnoV"I'm not much into this valuation thing, but what are the rules if I pick a coin from circulation for my collection (I have most of my euro coins from circulation)?
Could I add the nominal value as a 'purchase' value then?
And what about swapping? Most of my coins added over the last year result from swap on Numista. How would I evaluate those? Or shouldn't I?
Not really the intent of the value system. It's rather entering the value of coins you buy i.e. buying/purchase price. Intent here is to show a "numismatic value".
If you get a coin from circulation (i.e. change when you buy some groceries), the face value is not the purchase price nor a numismatic value; it's just its face value. ngdawa is right: no value to enter here.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
So far the values showing up are reasonables and seems that the users are using this feature in a good way.
But some countries needs more value entries to get a better value of median. The austrian coins are so far a bit inflationated. Seems that a lot of users have coins in VF condition, so sometimes the VF value is higer the XF. Example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces654.html (1991)
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Citeer: "CassTaylor"Looks like I overpaid for the Saxony coin... sad!
On the plus side it's got an awesome design; je ne regrette rien.
Yes, if you assume it's accurate, and all those 'Unc' prices are actually for uncirculated coins that haven't been cleaned or abused in any other way.
Citeer: "CassTaylor"Looks like I overpaid for the Saxony coin... sad!
On the plus side it's got an awesome design; je ne regrette rien.
Yes, if you assume it's accurate, and all those 'Unc' prices are actually for uncirculated coins that haven't been cleaned or abused in any other way.
Yeah, good points- I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt as to accuracy, though who knows how accurate it is.
I'm kind of tempted to try changing mine to XF for a minute just to see what it's going to do to the median number for UNC.
Ok, here is an interesting question: If you buy a coin online (from E-Bay or elsewhere) or order by mail, do you include s&h fees in the price you list on Numista?
I would be inclined to do so, since some sellers offer free shipping and already factor s&h into their price, while others do not but offer combined shipping, and if I have to pay extra for s&h, I adjust my max bid accordingly.
Citeer: "Houseofham"Ok, here is an interesting question: If you buy a coin online (from E-Bay or elsewhere) or order by mail, do you include s&h fees in the price you list on Numista?
I'd say no to that, since that is not the price for the coin itself, it's the price the seller charge to ship it to you and is the same no matter what coin you buy.
Citeer: "Houseofham"Ok, here is an interesting question: If you buy a coin online (from E-Bay or elsewhere) or order by mail, do you include s&h fees in the price you list on Numista?
I'd say no to that, since that is not the price for the coin itself, it's the price the seller charge to ship it to you and is the same no matter what coin you buy.
In that case, reporting any prices for coins that came with free shipping would be misleading (inflated) because that price includes seller's s&h costs and I have no reliable way to know what they are.
Citeer: "Houseofham"Ok, here is an interesting question: If you buy a coin online (from E-Bay or elsewhere) or order by mail, do you include s&h fees in the price you list on Numista?
I would be inclined to do so, since some sellers offer free shipping and already factor s&h into their price, while others do not but offer combined shipping, and if I have to pay extra for s&h, I adjust my max bid accordingly.
Citeer: "Houseofham"Ok, here is an interesting question: If you buy a coin online (from E-Bay or elsewhere) or order by mail, do you include s&h fees in the price you list on Numista?
I would be inclined to do so, since some sellers offer free shipping and already factor s&h into their price, while others do not but offer combined shipping, and if I have to pay extra for s&h, I adjust my max bid accordingly.
Citeer: "Houseofham"Ok, here is an interesting question: If you buy a coin online (from E-Bay or elsewhere) or order by mail, do you include s&h fees in the price you list on Numista?
I would be inclined to do so, since some sellers offer free shipping and already factor s&h into their price, while others do not but offer combined shipping, and if I have to pay extra for s&h, I adjust my max bid accordingly.
I do not include shiping fees. I think they should not be included, because they depend on the seller's country and the quantity of coins bought as one package. This quantity depends on buyer's interests and wealth; it has nothing to do with the market value of the coin.
(By the way, usually I buy from domestic dealers, so shipping costs are very low when compared with E-Bay.)
A year ago i bought on ebay 4 roman coins. They were on separate auctions but from the same seller. Starting price was 0,99$ but shipping was more or less 12$. Seller did combine shipping costs. I won the 4 coins for 0,99$ each (I bid a few seconds before the auctions ends). So I paid about 16$ for the 4 coins including shipping.
For example, one of the coins was this one : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces68955.html
In VF/VF+ grade, with most of its silvering.
I don't think that i should put 0,99$ as buying price. People didn't bid because of the "high" shipping costs I think. Shippings costs have a role to play on what people are ready to pay for the coin. If one day I'm going to sell the coin in my country (where shipping are about 1$50), I don't think I'm going to sell it for 0,99$...
OK, I must admit that on E-Bay (and possibly elsewhere) various manipulations with "shipping costs" do happen. There is no such thing as free shipping, someone has to pay for it anyway. Possibly also some sellers ask too much for shipping and hide part of the real price when asking to cover shipping costs. Whenever such manipulations happen, I think the buyer should refrain from entering the price here in Numista.
But when shipping costs are evaluated in transparent way, they depend on the postal services, not on the coin market.
but compare the price of this nickle coin with the belgian silver further up. do you see what i see? 
