I have been a member of Numista since 2012. I have seen many changes, both in the “ENGLISH” side and in the management in general. For the most part, changes in the site have been positive, with the exception of the more recent changes.. As for the management (mostly referees), it has gone from bearable to ridiculously unbearable.
There have been a few disagreements here and there, but none so bilantly disrespectful and abusive as the latest supposed conversion on what is English and what isn’t, and that the majority of English speaker are ignorant … https://en.numista.com/forum/topic68338.html#dernier
IMHO, Numista is no longer the friendly, easy to use site that it once was.
To the membership, I wish you good health, happy dreams and bountiful collection. The members that I have swapped or purchased from, you are more than welcome to contact me by email with any offers you might think would interest me …
Kind regards,
Fred …
a.k.a derf
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Do not argue with ignorant people .. !! They will drag you down to their level, then pulverize you with experience ...
I know I never got around to an exchange with you, but we did have many conversations about many topics and you also were there when I needed some help.
You will be sadly missed by most of us.
I wish you all the very best in wherever your future takes you.
I read through the thread and personally think it’s a very trivial matter to get flustered about. But my gut feeling tells me, it’s simply the straw that broke the camels back. Eitherways, time off, whether temporarily or permanently from the forum may be good for both sides. I said this when Neil left as well and I think he’s much happier for it. In the meanwhile Numista moves on and is still very much providing a valuable service to its ongoing members
In all instances, I wish you all the success with your collecting and good health in general!
It's always a shame to lose a long term member, especially over anguish caused by such a pedantic issue. I'm sorry we couldn't agree to disagree and put a simple end to that particular debate just by not posting anymore, but well, here you are.
Either way, I wish you all the best for your future collecting.
My friend derf
I hope all is well with you and family. Do what is best for you. This thing on official names has been blown out of portion. We need to worry more on ease of use , then what some say is correct . Yes we need to be correct , but there are some things that will make things harder. I think the Ivory Coast should be left in the country list. But next to it should be Cote d'Ivoire. So if you hit it , it is linked to Cote d'Ivoire. And the coin pages are listed as Cote d'Ivoire. It all ease of use , keep it K.I.S.S.. Why did it so nuts, narrow minded , iam right so that is the way it is.Next they will want to remove France from the country list. A country known by that name for over 500 years. And make it the French Republic.
May you have good health and happy coin hunting.
yours daryl
I will truly miss you on this website, please pm me your email!
If I could urge you to stay, just take a long break. it’s people like you that make numista a great place. Without you here it will be worse off, more of what you don’t like about numista, with you here it will be better off.
Every time I see the coin you gifted me I feel the same surprised feeling I did that day at the exit where we met. I’ll miss your posts here.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Hello derf !
I would request you not leave Numista ,but limit yourself from Forums (etc etc).I can understand your pain,few months ago I was also very disappointed by few events on numista ,due to some barking birds who are retired guys ,dont have anything to do in life just give free lectures ... its very easy to say do not bother things on numista ,but we can't keep Ourself from expressing our views because we are very much attached to numista emotionally and we find this site as our.This is a mistake ,I also thought of giving up the membership due to this emotional turmoil ,but my Dear friend Ivan suggested me Not to get involved in forums useless discussion better concentrate on your collection ,Swaps and enjoy coin collection enjoy your life with family .This was the reason I took up the issue of changing the icon of Your coins to My Coins ,As I love the site as foolishly admired it as my site .This is not MY Site ,its a public forum,and I as a individual I like to keep my self with my close friends I am not a public guy ,not a leader ,teacher or a philosopher Just another guy who like coins-Simple ,Now I do not want to Publicly express my views to get in verbal spats with those bunch to retired cartoon who do not have anything in life and waiting for there death making our life miserable by there bad words...........
I Hope you understand the basic point.I wish you Happy life,Enjoy Coin collection have fun !
Screw that, stay and fight the good fight. Trust me Fred, I've had exactly the same thoughts myself during the distasteful atmosphere of recent times. The more people who are bullied into silence or driven off, the more dreary and lifeless the forum becomes. Fred you'll be staying right here even if I have to dust off the Iron Man suit. Let the moderators have a final chance to do their job. If it doesn't happen, Hell I'm going with you.
A couple of perma bans and the problem is resolved, not one, not three, two. No more, no less. Root out the problem and the forum will return to the civil and enjoyable place it was just six months ago, allow it to persist and the Numista forum will become a wasteland of politically correct virtue signaling and lowbrow Pablum. We all know it so why delay the inevitable? You can't reason with these people, there's simply no middle ground to be found. Gentle hints are ignored. Even a specifically directed forum topic couldn't keep the peace for 24 hours. Making concessions just serves to encourage further acting up.
Look, you can't get along with everybody, no matter how hard you try. But if you can't get along with anybody then clearly there's some issues going on. Some kind of intervention and help is needed and I'm not sure that the Numista forum is the place to find it. Leave that shit to the professionals but please, please spare the rest of us from the symptoms.
The Numista forum has changed from a pleasant easy going place into somewhere I don't even feel like logging into any more due to the daily round of hostility, bullying and snide remarks. I'm damned sick of it. I'm here for the coins and the friendships not the drama queens, teenage angst, and of course the daily lectures on our moral, intellectual and educational shortcomings, real or imagined.
This crap needs to be stopped before the stream of departures becomes a flood. It's long overdue.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
The Côte d'Ivoire story reminds me of that Gulliver's Travels story where society is split over which side of an egg is the bottom, or something like that, I read it as a kid and can't remember the details. The author Jonathan Swift was surely cynical about the debates of his contemporaries.
Not much has changed. To argue is human. But in general I've noticed a bit more drama on the forum recently. I understand that the average coin collector suffers from some level of Asperger's and neuroticism but luckily these people can also count to 10 flawlessly. So if things get a bit nervous just take a deep breath and realize this is just a coin forum.
Citeer: "derf"I have seen many changes, both in the “ENGLISH” side and in the management in general.
Or “INTERNATIONAL”.
Citeer: "derf"There have been a few disagreements here and there, but none so bilantly disrespectful and abusive as the latest supposed conversion on what is English and what isn’t, and that the majority of English speaker are ignorant … https://en.numista.com/forum/topic68338.html#dernier
I really hope this isn't the reason you are leaving. If so, I'm just lost for words.
Of course we can't agree with everyone - or e erything, but like my wife use to say "the people on the internet doesn't exsist." So, don't let an non-existing person get under your skin. Remember this: Don't get upset with people's comments, they are powerless without your reaction. If someone writes something that just makes you wanna punch the screen and murder your cat (or your neighbour's), just take a deep breath, think "that guy is an idiot", watch a funny youtube clip - or two, read the comment again and write a joke. If the other guy don't get your joke, then you were right - he is a idiot!
I've been here just a little longer than you, and you know just as well as I do, that the Numista forum is like the ocean. Some days it's calm and everyone is enjoying everything, but other days it gets stormy and chaos. That's just how it is when 83,976 with different backgrounds and different language skills are trying to communicate in a language some people know better than other. (Hence the international forum).
And in the end of the day, I don't think neither you or me, or anyone for that matter, really cares if the country is labeled as "Ivory Coast" or "Côte d'Ivoire". Tomorrow the sun will rise anyway. The birds will sing, the kids will laugh. There's no need to leave the best numismatic sight there is, just because of that. People are scumbags - especially on the internet, but all we can do is to try not to be one ourselves.
So, don't let people that doesn't exist drive you away from your hobby. If you need to, take a break and come back when summer comes!
Well Derf, it's a pity you want to left the site. It's your choice and we should respect it, althought you shouldn't take the last developments that serious, I wont anyway.
In other words, I don't really care what the Numista team says about my dutch coins and its colonies. I have my own point of view about what it's dutch and what's not. I have my own database too. Numista just help me to get in touch with some fantastic people who share the same numismatic interest.
Citeer: "Dutchgalego"In other words, I don't really care what the Numista team says about my dutch coins and its colonies. [...] I have my own database too.
this is so true! my collection on numista vs. my collection in my own database is pretty different in many ways. for example, i'm not bunching german empire, weimar republic and nazi germany together as one mess, i separate them.
Citeer: "Dutchgalego"In other words, I don't really care what the Numista team says about my dutch coins and its colonies. [...] I have my own database too.
this is so true! my colle tkon on numista vs. my collection is my own database is pretty different in many ways. for example, i'm not bunching german empire, weimar republic and nazi germany together as one mess, i separate them.
like i said: in the end of the day, who cares?
Yes, we are free to catalogue our coins the way we want.
The Numista site can be very helpful in the process, just use what you need and don't pay attention to the rest. I'm pretty sure that everybody (within the Numista team) has the best intentions, but I don't recognize their knowledgement as an absolute truth.
Citeer: "arvin11"but my Dear friend Ivan suggested me Not to get involved in forums useless discussion better concentrate on your collection ,Swaps and enjoy coin collection enjoy your life with family .
Arvin11
Hello colleagues and friends of all 58 sexes
when I once helped (I did not even know Arvin 11) friend, I will do it again for a colleague ,,derf,, derf's profile
I am an retired American military, living in Kyrgyzstan
I'm also a veteran of missions and army retired. That's why I know the soldiers are not giving up and not so easily
We are the happiest people on the planet-we have hobbies and plans.
Despite the religious, political, without any gender difference, national and other countless differences-we agree which coin is nice which is rarer, and we are debating this, we praise our coins .
Please do not leave Numista, more humor and joy, more grace and tolerance, but let us say own opinion and respect others.
Do not give up !!!
Ivan
I agree with you on the Ivory Coast issue, but... all drama aside, Numista has absolutely no obligation to remove any images that it had received permission to use, unless it is using them in a manner inconsistent with the terms under which they were provided and that you agreed to. And those terms certainly are not a "sure, you can use them while you keep me happy" license.
I agree with you on the Ivory Coast issue, but... all drama aside, Numista has absolutely no obligation to remove any images that it had received permission to use, unless it is using them in a manner inconsistent with the terms under which they were provided and that you agreed to. And those terms certainly are not a "sure, you can use them while you keep me happy" license.
Research Copyright laws of France ...
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Do not argue with ignorant people .. !! They will drag you down to their level, then pulverize you with experience ...
I agree with you on the Ivory Coast issue, but... all drama aside, Numista has absolutely no obligation to remove any images that it had received permission to use, unless it is using them in a manner inconsistent with the terms under which they were provided and that you agreed to. And those terms certainly are not a "sure, you can use them while you keep me happy" license.
Research Copyright laws of France ...
i smell a new argument comming..
btw, it's a .com address, not a .fr. is it still under the French law when the address nlt is based in France? I honestly have to idea how it works, but you are the one who uploaded the pics, so..
I would even demand that your 406 coins added, 845 years added, 2203 coins edited, 480 years edited should be reversed.
It's intellectual property after all and surely protected by French laws.
Citeer: "Muenzenhamster"I would even demand that your 406 coins added, 845 years added, 2203 coins edited, 480 years edited should be reversed.
It's intellectual property after all and surely protected by French laws.
The catalogue shouldn't suffer because someone's got upset. I also prefer 'Ivory Coast' and have a lot of things which I don't like about current 'countries' and 'sections' division, but I just stick to the catalogue improvement and omit the forum as much as I can. Recently Numista's forum has become a horrible place to be. I don't know why people became so mean and unfriendly to each other. It's our common hobby and it should unite us, not make us enemies. Whether any of us collects cart tokens or silver coins, respect others because it's our common hobby and this is our website - a place for all of us.
Citeer: "Muenzenhamster"@druyhynets
the new countrysection is a joke.
concerning the forums.
i think people refrain from posting lately since of bossy feminist french historians.
Unfortunately I have no impact on any countries or sections division and personally I don't like current division very much, but I can't do anything about it.
