Well, it's a language that has writing in Arabic script, first off.
My guesses would be Arabic, Farsi, Urdu or Malay, just because they're the more common such languages.
thanks CassTaylor for quick reply , will concentrate on those languages , as it is aluminium do you think it is old or a modern token , do you perhaps know why they issued these token? , thanks again for your interest , good hunting
Citeer: "Mozza"thanks CassTaylor for quick reply , will concentrate on those languages , as it is aluminium do you think it is old or a modern token , do you perhaps know why they issued these token? , thanks again for your interest , good hunting
I honestly can't say about age, other than it was definitely struck after the turn of the 20th century; at earliest I'd estimate it to be 1920s or 1930s.
This is because aluminium was only discovered in 1808 and remained more valuable than gold for a good part of the 19th century, used by kings for it's novelty. It wasn't refined until the 1880s, and the first aluminium coinage came out in British West Africa in 1908. So your medal most likely dates to sometime after WWI.
I don't read Arabic script other than a few country names and denominations, so I'm afraid I can't help you much with translation.
Hi ZacUK . I am also from UK , Chester is my city of birth , beautiful place , diameter of coin token is 36mm , hope it will help as i have searched a lot of countries , still trying , thanks for interest , cheers , Dave
Citeer: "Mozza"thanks CassTaylor for quick reply , will concentrate on those languages , as it is aluminium do you think it is old or a modern token , do you perhaps know why they issued these token? , thanks again for your interest , good hunting
Hello again , have done a lot of searching , still no luck , thanks for your interest , egyptian looked very promising but could not find it , thanks , Dave
I can't read it all, but on the first line, the last two words are "Ya rabb" (يا رب) = "O Lord!"
Then, further down on the left you might recognize "استقلالي" = "my independence".
So, it sounds like a prayer or exhortation. And yes: it is Arabic. By the style, I would place it in the 1930s-1960s, but this is a wild guess!
Yes, aluminum was very valuable at first and it was used for coins only from 1908. But by 1908 it had already been used for tokens for about two decades. One of the things that caused a dramatic reduction of the value of aluminum was easy access to electricity and production by electrolysis. I happen to know just because of this very interesting piece in E-Sylum (with links to the original articles).
the language is Arabic
لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله which means : There is no power nor might save in Allah
the other side :احمى يا رب من مذللى و مستعبدى which mean : Protect me my Lord from humiliation and enslavement
و غاصب استقلالى و حريتى= and The rapist of My independence and freedom
انكلترا = England
and its appears to be a necklace for protection (Prayer) used by someone Arabian who travel to England
i think its hard to find in token section because its unique
Citeer: "Camerinvs"Fascinating. Thanks, Ammar. !«Numista» ومرحبا بك في
I thought I saw the words "rapist" and "England" but I assumed I was wrong. -- How could "rapist" be on a medal?? Well, I'll know better next time!
rapist in arabic (غاصب) means: the person who takes something doesn't belong to him by force .
so the translation of the necklace : please my God ( Allah ) as nothing happens without your power
please protect me from humiliation , enslavement and also anybody wants to take my independence and freedom by force .
Citeer: "Camerinvs"Fascinating. Thanks, Ammar. !«Numista» ومرحبا بك في
I thought I saw the words "rapist" and "England" but I assumed I was wrong. -- How could "rapist" be on a medal?? Well, I'll know better next time!
In that context I'm assuming perhaps it refers to British colonisation of an Arabic speaking country? There are about a dozen places in the Near East it could be from if it's that.
Citeer: "ammarelkelany"the language is Arabic
لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله which means : There is no power nor might save in Allah
the other side :احمى يا رب من مذللى و مستعبدى which mean : Protect me my Lord from humiliation and enslavement
و غاصب استقلالى و حريتى= and The rapist of My independence and freedom
انكلترا = England
and its appears to be a necklace for protection (Prayer) used by someone Arabian who travel to England
i think its hard to find in token section because its unique
greeting from Egypt
Hello ammarelkelany from South Africa , how wonderful to get this translation , thank you so much for taking the time to reply and to give me a real insight of what this token means , i shall print this and keep it with the token for my grand children to realise what it means , i am so happy , i am retired now and enjoying finding strange items nobody is interested in and investigating their true meaning , so good to be in contact with you , i cannot tell you how much this means to me , THANK YOU , DAVID MORRIS
Citeer: "Mozza"thanks CassTaylor for quick reply , will concentrate on those languages , as it is aluminium do you think it is old or a modern token , do you perhaps know why they issued these token? , thanks again for your interest , good hunting
I honestly can't say about age, other than it was definitely struck after the turn of the 20th century; at earliest I'd estimate it to be 1920s or 1930s.
This is because aluminium was only discovered in 1808 and remained more valuable than gold for a good part of the 19th century, used by kings for it's novelty. It wasn't refined until the 1880s, and the first aluminium coinage came out in British West Africa in 1908. So your medal most likely dates to sometime after WWI.
I don't read Arabic script other than a few country names and denominations, so I'm afraid I can't help you much with translation.
THANKS FOR YOUR interest , how nice to get the answer , feels wonderful , Mozza
Citeer: "Camerinvs"Fascinating. Thanks, Ammar. !«Numista» ومرحبا بك في
I thought I saw the words "rapist" and "England" but I assumed I was wrong. -- How could "rapist" be on a medal?? Well, I'll know better next time!
Hi again , thank you for the interest , what an interesting item and now we have its true meaning , what a wonderful item i shal treasure it and now i understand the true meaning , thank you again , Mozza
Well, I'll know better next time!