Looking for help to identify 2 coins

I received these coins in a lot purchase and am having trouble identifying them any help would be very much appreciated Thank you in advance for any help

Hello,

The first is likely a tin pitis from the Malay Peninsula, since it has Malay lettering, or something similar:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=simplifie&p=1&l=peninsule_malaise&r=pitis&e=peninsule_malaise&d=&ca=3&no=&i=&v=&m=&a=&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&c=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&te=y&cat=y

None of those entries fit your coin exactly, but there were tons of irregular varieties for these coins so I wouldn't be surprised.

By the way, next time posting weight and diameter would be useful!

second looks like german states
similar:
http://herbison.com/someoldcoins.org/saur/1/1666.htm
better contrast: