Finnish pre-1917 coins ruler names

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I have spotted that some Finnish coins have the rulers english name and most possibly the rulers Russian (???) name:

"Alexander II"
"Aleksandr II"
"Alexander III"
"Aleksandr III"

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In Finnish, these would be:
"Aleksanteri II"
"Aleksanteri III"


Aleksanteri II statue

Which one, Alexander, Aleksandr or Aleksanteri?


Nikolai II is alright, I'd say. Finnish people call him Nikolai II.
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I remember this debate:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic65798.html
I guess we will have to run some sort of referendum... not on thia particular case, but on the whole issue of naming currencies and rulers.
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My idea is that the ruler name would be in the language of the country the coin has been used, but there could be a "translation of the rulers name" part or something.
Hello.
I am sure that we should write the names of the rulers in English (international) form on the English side of the site. In any case, there are discrepancies in the translation. I never liked how the names of the rulers were written in the section of the Russian Empire.
Aleksanteri​​​​? That would be terrible. Do you want to see "Александр" in the title of the page?
Citeer: "Cyrillius"​Hello.
​I am sure that we should write the names of the rulers in English (international) form on the English side of the site. In any case, there are discrepancies in the translation. I never liked how the names of the rulers were written in the section of the Russian Empire.
​Aleksanteri​​​​? That would be terrible. Do you want to see "Александр" in the title of the page?
​Or maybe another section for the rulers name in the language of the country where the coin has circulated.
In my opinion, the information must be in ENGLISH since it's an international catalog.
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Citeer: "druzhynets"​In my opinion, the information must be in ENGLISH since it's an international catalog.
​agreed
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Citeer: "CassTaylor"​I remember this debate:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic65798.html

​My opinion on the wider issue is the one Jarek stated in that link; that monarchs can have their names in local spellings as long as it's a Latin alphabet and consistent throughout that country's catalogue.

If there is any ambiguity (like here with Finland), best to just use the English "Alexander" as a default.
I thought that we had agreed to use the most internationally comonly used name of a ruler and that does not have to be english all the time but in almost all cases it will be.

but of course just to give an Example we want the name Alexander the Great and not:
Μέγας Ἀλέξανδρος Mégas Aléxandros lit. 'Great Alexander' Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας Aléxandros ho Mégas lit.
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Citeer: "CassTaylor"
Citeer: "CassTaylor"​I remember this debate:
​​https://en.numista.com/forum/topic65798.html
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​​My opinion on the wider issue is the one Jarek stated in that link; that monarchs can have their names in local spellings as long as it's a Latin alphabet and consistent throughout that country's catalogue.

​If there is any ambiguity (like here with Finland), best to just use the English "Alexander" as a default.
​I actually added the first coin with "Alexander" not "Alexandr"/"Aleksandr" but still, I am against this as in Russian for example, "Catherine the great" is "Ekaterina", "Elizabeth" is "Elizaveta" and "Alexander" is "Alexandr".

Still, under about ~3% of the population of Finland was Russian in the beginning of the 20th century, so if comparing to many other countries it basically should be "Aleksanteri".

Still if it all names would be in English, but as Numista has only only two different languages, French and English, many people would have trouble in finding the coins on google for example, or even trouble finding them on numista, I suggest there should be a small place with the most common name of the ruler in the language the coin is from. Or maybe even this kind of a thing for the ruler:

But I guess its a too big job, but atleast it would be somehow helpful, and also interesting if it included some information about the ruler.
@Monninen1

Yeah, I wouldn't particularly mind if the Latinised spellings of "Alexandr" or "Aleksandr" are used either, as long as it's a name in the Latin alphabet: (e.g. I would not like to use "Александр" instead!)

What you say about the infobox is interesting, I think it might be nice to also have links like that to English/French Wikipedia pages about commemorated events as well as monarchs, places, etc. that appear on coins.
Let's not start arguing. Whole thing is a bit more complex, as search by ruler is planned. Even today, without Aleksanteri/Alexander/Alexandr/Aleksandr, there are some rulers who have coins in different countries and are there named differently.

In terms of search, are these to be separate or connected? There are still many unanswered questions.
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