Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth - Jan II Kazimierz Waza? [opgelost]

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Hello,
I think these are copper szelag from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth under John II Casimir Vasa’s reign but there seem to be quite a few types and I don’t know which mine belong to (partly also because they are pretty worn). Can anyone identify these?

#1:


diameter: 15mm
thickness: 0.2mm
weight: 0.82g
metal: copper
year: 1665

#2:


diameter: 14mm
thickness: 0.3mm
weight: 0.93g
metal: copper
year: 1666?
Twopence a week, and jam every other day!
The 1665 coin:
o. IOAN. - CAS. REX.; under bust is T.L.B.
r. SOLI. MAG. DVC. LIT. 1665 ; under horse and rider is the monogram HKPL
Gumowski. Handbuch der Polnischen Numismatik, p154 #1870.

The 1666 coin:
Same legends. There are four varieties; two have the HKPL shown on your coin.
#1871 has TLB under the bust.
#1874 has TZH under the bust.
Your coin appears to be #1871.
There are so many variations and even contemporary forgeries
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic74843.html
....
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Thank you so much!
Twopence a week, and jam every other day!
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