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One of my favourite pieces - this gorgeous 1799 Half penny, this coin is full VF possibly even gVF and even has some lustre remaining around the "Georgius" part. The second series of steam pressed pennies and a perfectly circular coin (Extremely innovative for the Georgian era).
It improved on the 1797 coins, as there was a raised rim and this ensured the coins lasted longer and wore less quickly.
These coins were made by Boulton and Watt at the Soho works (The pre 1816 Mint on Tower Hill, did not have steam presses in 1799).
Even with the slight stain at 7 oclock on the obverse, this coin is a blinder and I know it will not be the only 1799 Copper piece shown.
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1798 - United Kingdom - Spade guinea gaming token https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25047.html
Not actually issued in 1798 as 2019 is the 150th anniversary of J Sainsbury opening
the first store. This token was a promotional item issued at one of the early openings.
The year forever defined by the Cartwheel coinage.
My 2d in fine condition, but with some heavy pitting and a copper mine around George's ear.
These coins were innovative being the first perfectly round steam engine pressed minted coins issued officially by Great Britain, but the low rims and poor finish ensured they wore very quickly. Each coin had an ounce of Welsh copper (Penny) and 2 ounces (Tuppence) and the One penny coins were used as weights and also for measuring cloth ( 8 pennies = 1 foot length, 24 = a yard).
Barrels full of these were exported to New South Wales in 1800, but disappeared quickly and they had coinage shortages through to the 1850s, when Gold rushes suddenly saw a surge of coin exports.
My penny is less nice and much more worn. Sadly this is how 99% of these coins I see are. It was not until 1860 the British decided to use more durable bronze for low value coinage.
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Think I just died and went to heaven - 18th century American silver coinage - lovely and very historic coin.
Thanks for showing and the Heraldic eagle reverse on a 1700s piece (Most Heraldic eagle coins I see are 1802 - 04)
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Lots - they are a popular coin. If it helps I think yours is the nicest one so far. That thing is at least XF and theres no corrosion, pitting or damage you usually see with these cartwheel coins.
If it helps, Great Britain has no more coins until 1763, excusing a few gold fractional guineas, a one off issue of shillings and sixpences (Dorien Magens) in 1787, random Maundy sets and copper tokens.
Also the Cartwheels were the first time Pennies and Tuppences had been issued in a metal other than silver. Copper had been used for Halfpennies and Farthings since 1672, but the Penny remained a silver coin.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
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My penny is less nice and much more worn. Sadly this is how 99% of these coins I see are.
It seems like the pennies circulated much more than their tuppence counterparts; my cartwheel penny example is an embarrassment, so I'll only be posting the two pence.
A bunch of the cartwheel pennies were shipped to Australia, where they circulated with the face value of two pence, to prevent them from being taken out of the colony.
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My penny is less nice and much more worn. Sadly this is how 99% of these coins I see are.
It seems like the pennies circulated much more than their tuppence counterparts; my cartwheel penny example is an embarrassment, so I'll only be posting the two pence.
1797 Great Britain 2 Pence - George III
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1287.html
Not sure what caused the pinkish-red tone on the reverse but it frames Britannia really nicely!
A bunch of the cartwheel pennies were shipped to Australia, where they circulated with the face value of two pence, to prevent them from being taken out of the colony.
Pinkish tone = original mint lustre, congratulations you have a near new coin. Being a recessed design, not many fingers have touched that surface and the high rim had protected it from heavy wear.
Yes you are right about Australia, many of their early Proclaimations had coins at values above face, a list from 1800 includes Gold Johannas of Portugal, these pennies, American and Spanish dollars, Indian rupees, pagodas and mohurs amongst other.
The pennies also saw use as cloth measurers, weights and even fishing sinkers when fully worn flat.
It is interesting a lot of us have nice 2ds, but worn pennies, as the 2d is much more scarce and had a mintage about 1/5 of the pence. You have seen how worn my penny is next to the tuppence and I am in the market for a nicer penny.
British coins are my favourite, being in New Zealand, we have a lot of them as British coins were used exclusively until 1911, silver coins and gold until 1933 with the bronze pence and fractions up to 1940. Even Australian silver was not used as it was a higher silver fineness (.925 fine until 1945 and .500 afterwards), whereas ours was only .500, the same as Britain. Hence why we have so many British coins here.
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This might be a stupid question, but when looking at the photographs I added above, and by zooming in on my camera to get the coins in full picture, how can you tell which is which, as neither seem to carry an actual face value.
Just curious?
Citeer: "COINMAN1"This might be a stupid question, but when looking at the photographs I added above, and by zooming in on my camera to get the coins in full picture, how can you tell which is which, as neither seem to carry an actual face value.
Just curious?
I was hoping someone might ask this question! I was pondering it this very morning and I think I've found a way to differentiate; just look at the points of the trident in relation to the second N in "BRITANNIA".
On the penny, the right-hand trident point points to the space between "N" and "I", closer to I than to N;
whereas on the tuppence the right-hand point is far closer to the edge of "N":
The United Kingdom Conder Tokens 1787-1797 were issued privately as there was a
shortage of copper coins, so when the Cartwheels shown above were officially issued
in 1797 it was made illegal to then issue any more Conder Tokens; except for these (for
example) shown below, which were already issued earlier that year.
Citeer: "COINMAN1"Not exactly easy to the un-trained collector, or seemed to be found in any catalogue explaining this.
I will check mine tomorrow.
Much easier way to tell
1d weighs 1 ounce or 28. something grams (I don't know exact number I was born in the metric era in a metric country. It is about 39mm in size
2d weighs 2 ounces or 57 or so grams -is 42mm in size.
The coins were not issued with Face Values for 2 reasons
1. There had never been copper pennies and tuppence before, so people in 1797 would know which was which.
2. Incredibly a lot of coins in this era had no face value, especially in Britain, apart from Maundy coins to 4d, all the silver since the 1660s had no denomination, size was what defined face value (23 - 24mm = 6d, 25 - 27mm = 1/-, 33mm = 2/6, 40mm = 5/-). Before that coins were marked with value in Roman Numerals! Mainly as they were hammered and easily clipped. Post 1662 Milled coins had a security rim, so you knew straight away if it had been clipped (cut into to remove silver).
Before 1344, Britain only had one coin - a penny and halves and farthings could be pennies cut into pieces. After that we had Groats (4d) and the Gold coinage (Noble, half Quarter) and weight was in grains (About 17 to a gram), a good silver penny was 22 grains, but this dropped to 14 by 1470 and was about 6 by 1795.
The Shilling (Testoon) only arrived in 1504, Crowns and Halfcrowns only arrived in Gold in the 1520s and as silver coins in 1551. At this time silver 3d, 1½d and ¾d coins were issued at various times.
The last coin added was the Florin (2/-) only in 1848 as a response to a need for a decimal pound. The 4/- coin was a one off between 1887 and 1890. It was retired after too many barmaids were scammed by it, thinking it was a crown (5/-) and giving change often for drinks that cost pennies.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
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Much easier way to tell
1d weighs 1 ounce or 28. something grams (I don't know exact number I was born in the metric era in a metric country. It is about 39mm in size
2d weighs 2 ounces or 57 or so grams -is 42mm in size.
The way I came up with was to tell the two coins apart in photos, of course if you had both in your hand the size difference should be a lot more obvious! (Not sure if it happens, but at least now there's a way to tell if a online dealer is trying to sell a cartwheel penny as a twopence!)
Anyway, for 1796, only this little old thing: 1796 Sardinia 5 Soldi - Vittorio Amadeo III https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5136.html
This is actually a billon coin, but bet no one would've guessed it at first glance!
1795 is the first year since the new millennium that I don't actually have anything from- but I do have a 1790s Spanish colonial 8 reales coin with the last date digit rubbed out- so let's just "pretend" it's a 1795. 1/9 chances!
1795 MO Viceroyalty of New Spain 8 Reales - Carlos IV https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces18852.html
This coin likely circulated in East Asia, judging by the Chinese chopmarks on both sides of the coin; there's also a swastika behind the head of the bust, but of course this is far more likely to be from Hindu or Buddhist symbolism rather than being connected with the Nazis.
The bust of Carlos IV used on the colonial coinage was actually just a slightly modified one of his predecessor Carlos III, due to budgetary and bureaucratic reasons.
One of my rarest coins is up for 1794, with a mintage of only 17,000:
1794 Geneva 1 Genevoise https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24177.html
Minted by the Revolutionary government in Geneva; the canton had been ruled as an oligarchic Republic since 1541, but with the French Revolution in neighbouring France, a more radical constitution was adopted in 1794. This big silver coin encapsulates the spirit of the times, with the inscriptions of "Equality, Liberty and Independence", and even uses the French Revolutionary calendar (l'an 3 de l'égalité).
1793 MF Spain 4 Reales - Carlos IV https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces14866.html
The Reign of Terror began in 1793, and the Spanish Bourbons watched in horror as their French counterparts were dethroned and executed. This was also the year that Spain joined the First Coalition against the French Republic, but just two years later Spain would leave the war.
ZacUK - I really love your Conder tokens - please keep them coming!!!
Cass - 1793 I agree, what a year, Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI had to eat cake and lose their head. It was also the year that America put out its first coins.
Here in NZ - We only had one event, 2 Maori chiefs kidnapped and taken to Norfolk Island to teach the convicts how to weave flax. It was a waste of time, as flax weaving was women's work in my culture and the two chiefs went home 2 weeks later with presents including money, clothes and animals.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
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Citeer: "Moneytane"Cass - 1793 I agree, what a year, Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI had to eat cake and lose their head. It was also the year that America put out its first coins.
Slight correction there, the first official US coins came out the year before, in 1792. (This is of course disregarding stuff like the Continental Dollar and Fugio Cents.)
For 1792, I was really hoping that I could get a Genie 6 livres coin before today, but I had a bunch of other coins to get as well, so instead here's two worn coppers:
4 (1792) France 2 Sols - Louis XVI https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3657.html
This one and alfonz's above, were actually made from métal de cloche; during the Revolution, anti-clerical sentiment and pragmatic necessity (shortage of copper) lead to church bells being melted down for coinage metal. They can be differentiated by a slightly yellowish tone, and appear in French coins from between roughly 1791 and 1794.
Louis XVI was in big trouble; he had been a constitutional monarch since 1789 (hence the more egalitarian title "ROI DES FRANÇOIS" instead of "ROI DE FRANCE"), but his attempt to flee to the Austrian Netherlands in 1791 and the Austrian Declaration of Pillnitz backing up Louis XVI's pre-1789 absolute power made the monarchy deeply unpopular, and it was abolished this year.
And here's the closest thing France has to condor tokens from the same era.....
1792 France 2 Sols (Frères Monneron) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces16282.html
Known as "monnaies de confiance", these tokens circulated during a time when inflation and shortage of coins (mentioned earlier) in France was dire, and private merchants began issuing their own small change coins for public use with the declaration "Remboursable" (refundable); the most famous of those are the Monneron Brothers, a banking family in Paris.
This coin has the declaration "LA CONFIANCE AUGMENTE LA VALEUR" (Confidence gives this coin value) on the edge, which gives some insight into the financial instability of the time. Later in 1792 the millennium old French monarchy would be abolished, and with the declaration of war on Austria and Prussia, began a quarter century of France being in near-constant conflict with the rest of Europe.
1791 .A France 12 Deniers - Louis XVI https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4007.html
Another coin made of bell metal; this coin was struck in Paris at the Couvent des Barnabites, a former convent converted in 1790 into a foundry for cannons and later, coinage.
1791 was the year when Louis XVI and his family attempted to flee to the Austrian border to raise support and an army to reclaim their pre-1789 power; however they were stopped and recognised at Varennes, halfway to the Austrian Netherlands, reportedly by comparing the King's face to his... on a coin.
EDIT: Shame this beauty I own is undated, but believed to be from around this year ...
circa 1791 - United Kingdom - 1/2 Penny [Middlesex - Pidcock's] https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces109251.html
I paid a lot for it, a few years ago, but it is worth it - wonderful designs
on both sides, and uncirculated condition still with original colour.
1790 A France 1 Écu - Louis XVI https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5768.html
At this point in the Revolution, Louis XVI was still king, but as a constitutional figurehead rather like George III in Britain. Most believed the developments of 1789 were over, but over the next two years the Revolution would take a much more radical turn.
1789 A French Guiana 2 Sous - Louis XVI https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8454.html
Possibly a contemporary counterfeit, which is very common for this type, judging by the "IR" in place of "FR" and the strange looking letters in "CAYENNE". But then again the poor-quality dies used for this coin yielded many lettering varieties, so it could be either way.
French Guiana would later become an infamous French penal colony.
1788 LIMAE Spanish Peru 2 Reales - Carlos III https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47958.html
Another coin that circulated in East Asia; the Chinese chopmarks are technically PMD, but they give the coin historical "character" IMO!
Sorry to derail the thread again, but 1788 was a very important year in this part of the world.
Australia was settled by the British and modern day Sydney became a penal colony, in January 3 ships arrived with the administrators, soldiers and several hundred convicts. Later in 1788 Norfolk Island was also settled and made a colony for the more hardened convicts. Both settlements struggled until the 3rd fleet of 1792.
For your French, 1788 was also the year the La Perouse expedition disappeared and its is believed they passed Botany Bay in March 1788. Remains of the L'Astrolabe were found in Vanuatu in 1958.
Now back to coins.
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The Dorien Magens coins - the first issue of silver coins other than Maundy (1d - 4d) since 1763!
Expect to see a lot of them. Meanwhile, they were issuing a bazillion fractional guineas for some reason.
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My scanner is acting up so the coin looks way darker than it is. I spent about an hour since yesterday trying to fix it with no luck, I might need to buy a new scanner.
Thats an amazing coin!
Pre Oskar II swedish silver coins are quite hard to get and pre Bernadotte silver coins seem impossible for me to get. Also they are goddamn rarely for sale at all.