4 shilling victoria [opgelost]

Hi all bought this cheap at a auction- do you consider it is worth taking to a silver smith to remove silver brooch blobs

I have several lowball ex-mount coins like this one, and usually I don't bother, especially when the soldered brooch itself has been removed- there's always the possibility that further messing around might damage the rest of the coin, so I'd personally leave good enough alone if that were my coin.


That being said, I do have this coin that I am looking for some help on how to remove the brooch vestige; personally it would have to be this bad for me to consider exploring options like that:

I afraid damage is irreparable - even if your silversmith can chisel off/grind off the silver solder, the coin surface and lettering will look damaged

Citeer: "CassTaylor"​I have several lowball ex-mount coins like this one, and usually I don't bother, especially when the soldered brooch itself has been removed- there's always the possibility that further messing around might damage the rest of the coin, so I'd personally leave good enough alone if that were my coin.
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​That being said, I do have this coin that I am looking for some help on how to remove the brooch vestige; personally it would have to be this bad for me to consider exploring options like that:
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​If the soldering is made of Tin, it is somehow easy to remove it, by very carefull and local heating, still you will
have some discoloration. If it was soldered with Silver than it is more or less imposible to remove it without
realy hurting the coin.

thankyou for your help guys- I think I will leave alone Murray

It's completely up to you, removing it won't positively or negatively affect the value of the coin so it just comes down to how you want it to look. If you want it to look a bit nicer in the flip then get it removed, if you're happy with the defect then leave it as-is.

what are the differances between florin and double except size and weight cannot see anything in script

Citeer: "muzz0000"​what are the differances between florin and double except size and weight cannot see anything in script

​I think you're right, the designs are virtually identical and the double is exactly twice the weight of the florin. It looks as if the sceptres on the double might be very slightly closer to the legend than on the florin.

Citeer: "muzz0000"​what are the differances between florin and double except size and weight cannot see anything in script

​It's kind of painstaking...... but I remember someone asked the same question about telling apart a cartwheel penny and twopence just from photos a while back; usually for situations like this with identical designs and no way to tell two denominations apart other than size, comparing the details (e.g. which letter on the legend X design feature is closer to) can be helpful, and if that fails you can sometimes count the "teeth" or denticles on the rim.

@yvon
Thank you! But I was just wondering if it was possible for a jeweller to "saw" off the remnants of the brooch or something?

Citeer: "CassTaylor"​

Citeer: "muzz0000"​what are the differances between florin and double except size and weight cannot see anything in script

​​It's kind of painstaking...... but I remember someone asked the same question about telling apart a cartwheel penny and twopence just from photos a while back; usually for situations like this with identical designs and no way to tell two denominations apart other than size, comparing the details (e.g. which letter on the legend X design feature is closer to) can be helpful, and if that fails you can sometimes count the "teeth" or denticles on the rim.
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​@yvon
​Thank you! But I was just wondering if it was possible for a jeweller to "saw" off the remnants of the brooch or something?

​Me personally would not allow any cutting-device even come near the coin; because it it is immposible
that this will give any positive result. You should really cheque if it is Tin. Tin is soft, (you should be able to
scratch it) if so, with, carefull, local heating, it is possible to remove it.

Thanks everyone for great advice I think will leave like it is. Thi s coin must be rare in the condition it is in except the brooch mutilation of course but will check to see if Tin used to fit clasp and review than