Hispania Ancient coinage [opgelost]

Hi everyone.
First of all apologize for possible errors in English, the google translator fails a lot with technical words of numismatics.
I have seen that the section of Hispania (ancient) has changed in the list of countries to relocate it within Roman provinces. Although I did not see with good eyes the crushing of coins that were included within Hispania (ancient) that had nothing to do with the Celts, it seems a bit of a shame for their new location within the Roman Provinces. The numismatic history of the Iberian Peninsula from the creation of its first mint in the Greek colony of Emporiton in the 5th century BC until the 2 Euro coin of Felipe VI of the year 2020 deserves a few sections more in line with its different cultures . In my opinion the Greek coins of Emporiton and Rhodeton should be included in Greece (ancient) within a section such as Iberia (name given to the peninsula by the Greeks (Land of the Ebro river). For the following issues issued on the peninsula, it could be divided into Celtic tribes such as Arevakos or Berones within the group of Celts and Iberian-origin peoples such as the Edetans or the Indigetes would be better located within Hispania (ancient). For Punic emissions on the peninsula such as the Baria or Gades issues, they would be correctly located in Phoenician Cities and subsequent emissions from Neopunic, Libiofenicias or Mauritanian mints such as Malaka, Sacili or Tingi within Carthage.
Now yes, when arriving at the Latin period of the Iberian mints within the Roman Provinces it would be possible to separate the different Hispanic provinces:
1-Hispania Citerior (197aC-27aC) ruled by Procónsules first and then by praetors that was divided in the year 27aC in
1.1-Hispania Tarraconensis (27th-5th century)
1.2-Hispania Cartaginensis (27th-5th century)
1.3-Hispania Gallaecia (27th-5th century)

2-Hispania Ulterior (197aC-27aC) divided into
2.1-Hispania Baetica (27th-5th century)
2.2-Lusitania (27th-5th century)

All of them minted issues to a greater or lesser extent, under several emperors and especially the Hispania Baetica that had four provincial mints and up to 47 local emission mints.

You are just too fast. I will be creating Hispania section within Greece today.

okay. thanks. maybe this web helps you.
moneda-hispanica.com

Hi gabilife79,

Since I was thinking lately about the restructuring of the Roman Provincial section, I completely agree Hispania should be reorganised. Coins like these are definitely not Roman and should go in their own Punic section.

As regards the Roman provinces, I think there are some inaccuracies in your list. For Hispania (as for most of the Empire), there are 3 main periods:

1. before Augustus (~197-27BC):
- Hispania Ulterior
- Hispania Citerior


2. After the reform of Augustus (27BC-AD298):
- Hispania Tarraconensis
- Hispania Baetica
- Hispania Lusitania


3. After the reform of Diocletian (AD298-5th Century):
- Hispania Tarraconensis
- Hispania Baetica
- Hispania Lusitania
- Hispania Gallaecia
- Hispania Cartaginensis


Roman provincial coinage stopped in the whole Empire around AD270-280 (only exception is the Alexandria mint). So we do not need H. Cartaginensis and Gallaecia on Numista because they never issued coins (at least according to RPC).

Republican Provincial coinage does exist, but it is very rare. We need to keep in mind that there is no clear date when the reform of the provinces happened. Sources quote dates between 27-14 BC. Also, most coins of this period are dated with uncertainty, e.g. "around 20 BC" or "second half of 1st century BC". In these cases it would be impossible to know with certainty if that coin would be in H. Citerior or H. Tarraconensis (i.e. was it issued before 27BC, or after?)

Therefore, the RPC uses this convention, where all coins are attributed to the provinces of Augustus, which I think works quite well.

So we only need 3 provinces: H. Tarraconens, H. Baetica and H. Lusitania.

Hope this makes sense

strato

Hola, gabilife

I remember that a few months ago I told you by PM the coins of Hispania were going to be distributed between Greece, Rome and Carthage, because of their reorganizations.

But there will be another step forward. In the future, an issuer can be under two countries, then we will have again the country Hispania, sharing all the coins with the three great Mediterranean cultures.

Strato is absolutely right, in the Hispania Cartaginensis only anonymous late-Roman imitation bronzes were emitted and some small uncertain bronzes that some numismatists attribute to the Visigothic period (thus breaking their monometallic system) and others include them in Roman bronzes.

http://tesorillo.com/hispania/1visigodas.htm

This link is from a page quite focused on those periods, and I think you can have it in English too.

Off-topic. I haven't added the uncertain bronzes you say, nummis, because wasn't sure where to put it, Visigothic or Byzantine.

This should be done already.