United States Banknotes - How to Organize? [opgelost]

Well it didn't take long for there to be overlapping listings...

There seems to be two different ideas on how to organize the US Banknotes:

1 - By Series
Every series gets in own listings. (Ex. Series 2004, Series 2006, Series 2009, etc.)

These listings seem to follow this first method:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note202123.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201844.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201790.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201813.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201758.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201760.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201764.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201766.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201849.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201785.html

2 - By Major or Significant Design Change
Every significant change in detail or design is it's own listing. (Blue Seal, Red Seal, No Motto, With Motto, Small Portrait, Large Portrait, Colored Note, etc.)

These listings seem to follow this second method:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201793.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201794.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201805.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201817.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201812.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201830.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201558.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201824.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201837.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201734.html

Then these ones don't makes sense:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201633.html (There are no series 1936 through 1956)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201853.html (Why the cut-off at 2004? Why not include 2001 or any earlier ones? Also there is no such thing as a Series 2004 1 Dollar?)

Some of these listings will have to be deleted or significantly edited, but it depends on which method would be best.

I personally prefer organizing by significant design change. Having 16+ catalog listings just for the Federal Reserve $1 Notes seems unnecessary. But I may be in the minority with that opinion.

What are your thoughts and opinions on how the United States banknotes should be arranged?

Is it me, but WHERE are the descriptions and lettering of both sides ??!
Looking at some of those links I cannot see them.
Are referees just accepting pages which have been poorly created ?
How hard can it be to add those details when creating a page; as someone
somewhere at some time will have to add them, when they could have been added at the start.
Unbelievable !

First of all, you all make good points. Second of all, it is not practical to assume that a listing springs forth perfectly from the start. The US banknote listings are extremely complex. Many have not been approved because it is obvious there is overlap. But other times it is not so obvious. The catalog to organize the listings is not even apparent yet. Do we use Pick? Which is woefully inadequate for US listings? TBB does not have a US chapter yet. Do you ZacUK have the 500+ dollar catalog in multiple volumes for the US listings?

Some of this may also be due to collectors enthusiastically listing their individual pieces. It is a fine line to honor them and not insult a potentially significant contributor.

By all means Zacuk submit corrections and adjustments/improvements. You are a ref. It would be appreciated.


Tanman2001 thanks for your detail. Even if the organization must eventually change, you make great points. I look forward to approving your changes and creations.

Hi,

we a special section for banknotes, please use it!

Ole

Ole you are correct. But forgive us, now that banknotes are part of numista, until Xavier makes some more forums, I hope this will be resolved for all the coin users soon...

The banknote section is new. This is its second day of existing, and as of me posting this, we are at nearly 800 banknotes. We are trying to build the catalogue first. Descriptions and lettering can always come later.

And regarding the banknote section: this may have to be re-considered. There is no option for tickets in the banknote section, so for request to not get lost, some may have to be treated like coins (until the forum is refined to account for the new banknote catalogue).

NO NO NO
ALL new pages MUST have ALL possible information on.
VERY annoying - how hard can it be, to all those who create a new banknote page,
to add the description and lettering ?????!
What is wrong with everyone - if it does not have that information, the request should
be sent back for editing - NOT leave it for some poor team member to add later.
It should be done correctly from the start.
This is NOT a race. Have some common sense.
VERY ANNOYING.

Maybe it is just me - I would though like to see what Xavier thinks.

Hm... guess we must agree to disagree then. For coins, I always find it better if there is a page for a type with limited information than there not being a type at all.

My mindset is the same for banknotes.

Amen Sulfur.

Citeer: "ZacUK"​ Maybe it is just me - I would though like to see what Xavier thinks.

​Not just for you, for sure.

If you find a page lacking, edit it please.

I agree with you Tanman2001. In fact, I love your listing for the 1963-2017 $1.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note201805.html
I've just submitted three listings for $50 in that same format (with the Federal Reserve Banks and quantity broken down).
Coins don't get a new listing for every year, why would banknotes need it?