Polish coin listed in Krause Mishler's Standard Catalog of World Coin 1901-2000 but without a picture

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I see a 2 zloty coin issued in 2012 commemorating the 2012 London Olympics with a runner motif on the reverse. It seems similar to and from the same year as Y# 832 but KM assigned it Y# 847. I have not been able to find it or a picture anywhere. I have a Russian-made album of Polish 2 Zl and there is no cell for it either for that year.
Y# 832 mintage shows as 1,000,000 pieces and Y# 847 shows the same number.

Any assistance on whether this coin even exists or is available anywhere, please. Am I looking for a unicorn?

John Okerson
Arlington, Tennessee, USA
Topic verplaatst naar "Numismatic questions" (ZacUK, 22-apr-2020, 21:21)
I believe it is Y#832 (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36571.html), and some commemorative series have the same mintage for each type (such as German Bundesslander Euro Coins), which might explain the similar mintage.
The problem is that there are 2 specific, different KM#s involved here. Anyone else with an idea?
Where are you getting these numbers?
From the 2019 edition of Krause Mishler's Standard Catalog of World Coins 1901-2000.
Doesn't seem I'll be able to help - sorry.
What numismatic reference would you use? My Russian-made Polish 2 Zlote album only has 15 ports/cells for that year, not the 16 that KM suggests. I have not been able to find a picture of the coin nor anyone who is offering one for sale.
Citeer: "JohnOkerson"​What numismatic reference would you use? My Russian-made Polish 2 Zlote album only has 15 ports/cells for that year, not the 16 that KM suggests. I have not been able to find a picture of the coin nor anyone who is offering one for sale.
​My version isn't that recent.
Please check this info from NBP 2012 coins
Citeer: "JohnOkerson"​From the 2019 edition of Krause Mishler's Standard Catalog of World Coins 1901-2000.
On 1901-2000 catalog are not that coins, you are talking about the 2001-date issue, instead. It's out of range, so I checked both and see the coins only on second.

I know nearly nothing about Polish coins, so I only can make logic on what is shown.

Both coins have same weight and diameters, as well as same mintage, there is a slight difference on values assigned, but it is not much relevant. On the other hand, both say motif London Olympics, 2012, and one say "Runner motif", and the other "Polish Team". As per the image shown, the design can be correct for both descriptions, since the outlined silhouettes may represent the movement (runner motif), or the team (other runners behind).

On the link sent by leszek.nemo is showing only 1 coin, same design as the one in Krause, and on the booklet you can see at link in page, shows 3 different motifs, for 3 different values (2, 10, 20 ZL), and metals (nordic gold, silver and gold). As said before, I n¡know nearly nothing about polish coins, but the data (and absence of picture of a 1M mintage coin, as well as missing slot in your album), makes me think it is just one more mistake of Krause.
Just 10 options: you understand binary, or you don't.
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  • I have a great Britian 1922 Penny which I am almost certain is the reverse of 27. Can people please check out the photo's and tell me what you think? Thanks! If it is, it's for sale!
No - it is not. Will add a link and explanation in a moment ...

Also please create a separate topic in the correct forum in future! Thanks :)
https://en.numista.com/forum/forum12.html
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Here are your coin pictures, cropped and rotated, for comparison ...


and here are some past topics ...
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic28599.html
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic87440.html
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic61724.html
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic88718.html
so yours does not, on the reverse, have the longer teeth,
nor the wider horizon on the left, and so on.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
I will do. This was my first time using the site again in years. If you blow the picture up using your fingers on the reverse yiu will see the pitchfork is just touching the denticles, also has the later date denticles and a fat thumb.
Citeer: "ZacUK"​ Here are your coin pictures, cropped and rotated, for comparison ...


​and here are some past topics ...
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic28599.html
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic87440.html
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic61724.html
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic88718.html
​ so yours does not, on the reverse, have the longer teeth,
​nor the wider horizon on the left, and so on. As I just stayed if you use your fingers to blow the photo up larger you will see it has that.
Blow the reverse up. I disagree.
The regular 1922 the pitchfork almost touches the rim.
I was, in the same minute (9:13), typing my second reply while you were typing your reply.
So I did not know at the time you had replied. :|
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
The trident (pitchfork) is where the middle prong is located - not the right prong.
So it should not be touching the longer teeth. On the left below is the 1922/27 coin >


On the left of the shield is part of a rock, and on normal coins it has
the end part cut off by the teeth. On the 1922/27 coin it is all seen, to the point.
Yours has the fatter longer thumb. Not the thinner shorter thumb.

So those four things make me think it is not the 1922/27 coin. Sorry.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Here you go.look at this then look at mine.check the shield as well!

http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/8353-1922-penny-reverse-of-1927/?do=findComment&comment=93996
http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/8353-1922-penny-reverse-of-1927/?do=findComment&comment=94031
Sorry was on phone was going to leave this message on the last link I sent.the last link was the link I was trying to send the first time.if you look at pic one look how close the shield is to the rim then look at pic 2 then look at mine.
So did you read all of my reply >
Posted: 29-Apr-2020, 09:34PM
where I give the four differences:
Teeth
Trident
Rock
Thumb

I made this just now too ...


So in all your replies are you saying I am wrong ?!
I want to hear what other members think. :)
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Look at the last link I sent. I said I disagree which I have the right to do. The 22 rev of 27 is NOT the same die as the 27 as you will see in my last link. Notice in the last link the first pic, there is a small bead under the shield. Then look st mine and Then look at the second photo in the second link. If in the second link I sent( right above this message) if the second coin in the photograph is the 22 variety then I agree with you.
What is going on?
Yes I know 1927 is not the same as 1922/27
I never said that it was.

I told you what the four differences are.
I showed you pictures as well.
All four are different on your coin.
You did ask for members opinions.
I am done.
;(
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
http://cenum.pl/katalog/Polska/III_RP/Okolicznosciowe:2012/1791/Polska_Reprezentacja_Olimpijska_Londyn_2012.html

Hope I can help. Unfortunately this website is in polish only.

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