The page for this coin lists 3 KM numbers, 591.1, 591.2, 591.3, but doesn't say how to distinguish between them. Looking at NGC, I figured KM 591.3 is the one with the aqueduct mintmark, like mine.
But mine also has another mark to the left of the laureate crown on the reverse. Haven't been able to find that in any images of the coin, so anyone know what that is?
Citeer: "klei92"The page does tell you how to distinguish the different KM's (look "Comments" section on that page)
And about the mark, sorry dude that (R) means that its a Replica
Unless I'm not seeing it, the comments only tell me the different mints, not how to tell one from the others?
Citeer: "klei92"
And about the mark, sorry dude that (R) means that its a Replica
Is it possible it is a countermark?
I would say 99% that its replica because in one hand I have already saw too many and also in hand, they shout "i am a replica", the materials not always match and the texture its simply not good... more could be said
I have one replica example back at home and have the same coin but original (safuly not at home)... I will post if you want post of the fake one and you can try to compare it to an original one
Se queres ca muller che queira, ten diñeiro na carteira
Citeer: "klei92"The page does tell you how to distinguish the different KM's (look "Comments" section on that page)
And about the mark, sorry dude that (R) means that its a Replica
Unless I'm not seeing it, the comments only tell me the different mints, not how to tell one from the others?
Too bad if it's a replica though, but thanks!
(sorry I dont know how to multiquote)
I know its a bit complicated
For each mint they gave a different Km. In your case the mint is Segovia (you can see the mint simbol, an acueduct, over the date). So yours is KM591.3
So you need to fin the year (1850) and the line with the Segovia mint (the second one for 1850)
I hope I was clearer this time
Se queres ca muller che queira, ten diñeiro na carteira
Citeer: "klei"(sorry I dont know how to multiquote)
I know its a bit complicated
For each mint they gave a different Km. In your case the mint is Segovia (you can see the mint simbol, an acueduct, over the date). So yours is KM591.3
So you need to fin the year (1850) and the line with the Segovia mint (the second one for 1850)
I hope I was clearer this time
Yeah, but I can't see anywhere where they tell me that the aqueduct is the mintmark for Segovia - I only knew this because NGC lists the aqueduct mintmark as KM 591.3 🙂
They will be a bit later. For the moment I'm waiting on information from Spanish swap friends (catalog images and texts). With a bit of luck next week can be the target.
BUT I'm seeing a problem in the scwc... I have checked the internet for images of the coins. They have only 6 pointed stars on all the years!!
591.1 Es la mas corriente, ceca de Madrid "M"
591.2 ceca de Segovia "acueducto" Es la más rara.
591.3 ceca de Madrid con la marca DG Departamento de Grabado.
Lo he consultado en el catalogo Cayon pero no hay más información.
Translation:
591.1 is the common coin with the Madrid "M" mintmark
591.2 is the rarest of the 3 with Segovia "aquaduct" mintmark
591.3 minted in Madrid with the DG "Departemento de Grabado" mintmark.
I have consulted the Cayon catalog, but found no more information
end of translation!
As you see, no mention of stars, but now I have enough to set up a documentation, if I can get hold of images of the 3 coins, which I'm sure I can.
and here is another message from my Spanish friend.
La moneda de la foto es una replica, son frecuentes en España y se identifican de esa manera con una "R" dentro de un circulo, solían repartirlas con los periodicos.
Translation:
The coin in the image is a replica. They are "normal" in Spain, but nicely marked with an "R" inside a circle. They used to distribute with newspapers.